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The World Is Competing for Your Loyalty
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Every day, the world asks for your loyalty. News headlines, political opinions, fear, social media, and even the emotions of those around you all compete for your attention and influence your choices. What if your highest loyalty isn't to an ideology, a belief system, or someone else's expectations?
In this episode of Spiritual Perspectives: Discerning News..., Tom and Teresa Shantz, of TNT SpiritWorks, along Tiger Coll D. D., of the Wayshowers College, explore what it means to remain loyal to your higher self, your spiritual purpose, and the wisdom within. They discuss how the energy of fear spreads, how programmed emotional reactions can pull us off course, and how choosing inner awareness over outer chaos allows us to live with greater peace, clarity, and authenticity.
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So ⁓ who are you choosing to become while the world is changing? That is a question for today. And we are going to talk about some news news things that's been going on lately. And it's also been a c a little while since we've been together to do one of these. Yeah. Cause Tiger's been at the center doing camp all for like the last month or annual camp. Yeah. Yeah. Training. Yeah. Which I'm sure we'll get into some of that too, of what we've noticed going on in the world.
As far as news, you know, things. And then also what are what did you see at camp that kind of maybe resembles what what people are actually out there experiencing and bringing it forth to do some regrouping. Well I I mean, ⁓ I think you brought this up before we ⁓ got on w that I think we're gonna end up with talking a lot about loyalty. And ⁓ you know, the the spiritual year like ⁓ like the calendar year.
has a b know that ⁓ talks starts at a certain time and has their ending. ⁓ And that typically starts in September. ⁓ And ⁓ everything that's been leading up here, ⁓ it's this perfect, perfect situations to d decide how I'm going to move into the next year. ⁓ And ⁓ I know with some of your stories that we're going to be talking about, it really does come down to
How do I want to move forward? How do I want to move forward? What do I want to be a part of? ⁓ And ⁓ starting to decide, ⁓ am I going to keep indulging in the things that work against me or am I going to start letting that go and move to what builds me? Well, so I'll go ahead and open up with the stories and then maybe get Tom to chime in a bit here. ⁓ so
As I was looking, you know, I always look kind of what what's the highlight, what's going on this week, and God, this thing kept coming up as far as people attacking other people. And there's there's been a lot going on in the States, ⁓ but I was as I was looking and exploring, I was like, there's stuff going on everywhere. Yeah. So I just want to bring up there was ⁓ an attack at the Berlin Pride Festival. There was an attack there. There in Paris, there was a terrorist this week that
Teresa Shantz (00:03:11)
was running through the streets, cutting, he cut three women, screaming, Allah commanded me. And then in Seattle just had their food festival at the Space Needle and there was a big shooting there. So and that's just a couple because I could went on and you know listed many more because it seems like every day there's some type of attack going on people against people. So you want to start and open that Tom up with what you're Well what I noticed is ⁓ those three were all around the same time.
But we haven't heard of anything ⁓ since then. There hasn't been a major story in that, you know, with with regards to that kind of an event. You know, those kinds of attacks by pretty much it seems like one or two people, ⁓ you know, attacking several people. So it's not like something that's, ⁓ you know, coordinated or ⁓ right. Yeah. You know, it's it seems obviously there's, you know, they they must have planned it or in it.
To an extent, ⁓ you know, there's some sort of ⁓ plan, but it's not a it's more along the lines of lone individuals that are attacking others. So what's the spiritual what what you're Well for me, I've watched this, you know, over the years and it seems to me that ⁓ you know, confusion ⁓ looks for souls it can crank up or the sensitive people that it can stimulate to ⁓
⁓ get us all afraid ⁓ and all scared. ⁓ And ⁓ you know, if you're religious, you'd call that evil or an evil influence. You know, if you're more of a spiritual, you'd just say that's some confusion that's moving in. ⁓ And ⁓ so that's what I have to say about that. Well ⁓ I agree. ⁓ it's ⁓ to
When you brought up the stories and we started talking about it a little bit, that starting to really discern ⁓ what's me and not me. Where do I begin and end? What's my business? What's not my business? And I'm bringing that up because it I'm I I can get possessed ⁓ if I'm not clear with what my energy needs to be involved in. Right? I'm I'm a sensitive person.
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And I don't mean sensitive like I'm gonna break. I mean I'm just alert, I'm aware of the environment, I'm sensitive to it. You're sensitive to thoughts and feelings in the environment. That's right. Sensitive to the thoughts and feelings of the environment. And and that's a good thing. That's not a bad thing. I don't want to desensitize. So what needs to happen is actually I need to have my direction ⁓ crystal clear. And I need to know what's me and not me, what's my business and not my business. And
This the common denominator here that I ⁓ get from all these stories has to do with I get so consumed, or someone gets so consumed with an idea or a pattern of energy, right? That they just start acting on it. They just start doing it. ⁓ And that's that whole thing about ⁓ don't contribute to the problem, right? That
It's like that we talk sometimes about with these stories that have different politics and stuff like that. It's like instead of ⁓ arguing about the other gal or guy that you don't want elected, why don't you put the energy into ⁓ the person that you do want elected or the thing that you want to happen? Because what happens is I start contributing to the other energy. To the confusion. To the confusion in this case. So when I start having those battles inside me.
Because that's why we talk about peace, inner peace, not outer peace. There's always going to be different states of consciousness out there. Everybody's gonna ⁓ battle with each other. And that's why inner peace is gonna be the ultimate. If we want more peace on earth, it has to do with inner peace. But to kind of the first wave at this, I would say, Am I clear with what I want to be involved in? ⁓ And I'm not going to ⁓ I need to invest as little.
As possible. I need to spend as little as possible into what I don't want. And I need to be much more militant, loyal to what I do want. Because I always am going to be aware of the stuff going out there, right? And even with all the experience, I'm sure I'd love to hear what you have to say on this. I'm I'm still aware. I still have thoughts that come into my mind. And you know, I can get pissed off at stuff, but how much time do I spend in that?
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How where am I going to put my energy in that? So the quicker I get out of that and back to where I need to be, the more the healing, the more the clarity, et cetera. Yeah. I think that's a big part about doing our spiritual work. That's right. And being able and going to like, you know, reawaken membership every month where you have like minded people or coming to camp or coming to an you know, a retreat or somewhere where you do your inner work. That's right.
And really understand like you're saying about the discernment, because Tom and I were sharing on a recent podcast that I had an experience where I was around a person that was kind of cranked up about something. And what I brought home on the way home, I was actually picking up on the person's other person that was cranked up that cranked them up. Like that's how sensitive I am. It wasn't the immediate, it was like the second and the third layer of being cranked up. ⁓ And so ⁓ I know, wasn't that crazy, Tom?
And so being able to Yeah. Normal. Right. It is normal and people don't understand it. That's right. So that's the part about understanding how our energy works and how sensitive we are as ⁓ as these, you know, ⁓ lights and skin suits. ⁓ But for ⁓ understanding that, you know, and ⁓ being able to work on that and dis dis you know, determine what's me and what's not me, it's for myself, it's priceless because it's I'm noticing it's happening more and more.
And what you're saying about being militant in regards to, you know, what do I watch every day, what do I listen to every day, who am I around every day, and what am I experiencing? That in itself is it takes a lot of loyalty to what I've come to do and and what and who I am as a soul and how I'm working my journey to be the best part of that of who I am moving forward with everything I do. ⁓ Yeah, and I that word loyalty is
Such a great word because I'm I've learned, I've become more aware that it's important that I remain loyal to, you know, what I'm feeling, what my sensitivity says, rather than even what is I'm thinking so much. It's just what are my true feelings in this situation. And I can recognize when ⁓ my intellect, you know, I start trying to talk myself out of my true feeling.
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So I wanna be I wanna be loyal where
⁓ and if the fear moves in, ⁓ you know, like a little fear I won't be accepted or I'm gonna lose my opportunity, when that moves in on me, then I can kind of exacerbate the situation I'm in. And, you know, my my experience is that people are being sensitive to energy around them all the time. And I have to be, you know, we often use that word militant, which
I've always thought was a s a strange word. Doesn't sound very spiritual. Sound sound very spiritual ⁓ from a religious point of view to be militant, you know. But militant is for me, what that means to me is being alert ⁓ and ⁓ concerned enough that I'm not going to accept anything other than what I'm ⁓ picking up. But boy, that takes confidence. You know, that's the it takes practice. Antithesis of the training.
The anti the training that I've, you know, gotten while I've been on the back on the planet in the particularly my first seven years. I'm supposed to listen to other people or second guess myself. When ⁓ leadership for me is just staying within that track of my feelings and dealing with the facts as they arise. So So I I ⁓ I you you're ⁓ you're hitting on the point that I was gonna add a couple points on all this. So going back to the stories.
⁓ I think the the thing I'm gonna take us on ⁓ is ⁓ it's like that Apollo 13. Fear is not an option. ⁓ Failure is not an option in the thing in the Apollo 13 thing that's famous for saying, you know, failure is not an option. ⁓ Fear is not an option. Right? If I'm if I'm gonna move forward, I I cannot indulge, and it's an indulgence. ⁓ It's a choice. ⁓ I cannot indulge in fear. So
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If I've had some kind of inv environmental situation where somebody's hurt somebody, or in this case, somebody's shot somebody in in my environment, I cannot afford to live in fear. Anyone who's listening to this, you cannot afford to live in fear. That is the surest way, that is to say, live in fear. It's the surest way to get myself ⁓ all confused and just attract all the the old patterns that I'm outgrowing.
right back again. ⁓ So the number one thing is whether I'm being influenced personally or whether I feel the influence around me or things are going on around me, whether it's, you know, terrible stuff like this ⁓ or politics ⁓ or ⁓ family issues, fear is not an option. I need, I need to be the leader of myself. I need to be the leader of myself and make a decision about that.
Okay, I feel the fear. I'm worried about that, but that's not the path I'm gonna take. To me, that is ultimate leadership. Forget about having to go out and lead other people and all that kind of stuff. That's a natural outgrowth once I've mastered my energy. But fear is not an option. Yeah, because we're working with in I say we're everyone that's out in the world or on the world right now is working with ⁓ certain levels of confusion.
And they're everywhere. It's everywhere. And it's funny because I know I've talked to people over the throughout the years is the more and more that I understood about confused souls and you know, souls that have have left their physical bodies and are still on the planet in some form, that there that they literally there are so many of them on the planet in different and what you know, different layers and different levels. And so in recognizing that the best we could really do, like you're saying, is not live in fear and not be fearful about it. But
How can I walk around and go to events and go to the mall and go to the movies and not be scared that some ⁓ freaky person's gonna come in ⁓ and and you know and bl and have a machine gun and take everyone out. And so I know I think that's a big fear that a lot of people are having these days and you know, and going out into public and really being exposed to and open up to all the other energies that are around us.
Teresa Shantz (00:14:54)
And that's why we talk about loyalty to our true feelings, loyalty to working with our sp helpers, our guidance, loyalty to self. Because if I'm on that track, everything will work out. Even even if I don't see it, everything will work out. So I have to ⁓ trust, you know, once I develop that.
trust in my true feelings or in my sensitivity, my ESP, my the four spiritual gifts we've got, you know. And then I recheck with my guidance, you know, is this ⁓ a place for me to be involved with right now? ⁓ Or ⁓ as as I've developed that communication with my guidance, you know, kind of instantaneously I can just ask, do I need to get involved in this little discussion right now? Even as simple as a business discussion at the wrong time. You know
it doesn't have to be a big deal, like we're p pointing out big deals, you know, where some crazy things happening in my environment. But when I work with my ⁓ sensitivity, if I as I unfold my awareness and work with guidance, I don't end up in those situations where I put myself in danger. But many times ⁓ you know, there is no danger. And yet I think there might be, you know, or that's the pattern.
⁓ So that's what do you have to say about that? I was just gonna go there about that. I think you're picking it up. That was the next thing I was gonna go up and ⁓ I think both of you could ⁓ share on this a lot, but it there is patterns that move through planet Earth. There's patterns that ⁓ I have that I work with, ⁓ working through and to something else, ⁓ and other people have that.
And then there's also such a thing as when ⁓ a group of people or a country starts changing and it gets away from the way they used to do it, the old pattern, it will go ⁓ it will go find and migrate to something else to find and do it again. Right. Some people ⁓ who believe in incarnation, that they it's the souls. Yeah. That that the souls come and they try to relive and rehash all that.
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Right. ⁓ Or ⁓ the the psychology is more about, okay, well, people forget and then they go through that evolution again. The young, the young people will come through and they have to go through that process. So one example of this ⁓ is ⁓ you have, where for those who are old enough to remember this, you have the old Soviet bloc, ⁓ right? ⁓ And a lot of the people that came before us used to talk about.
That a lot of the energy that was once over there ⁓ is going to try to find its way over here and to the Western society. Right. ⁓ And you can see if you take a take a step back, a big, big picture, and you just look at some of the things playing itself out, you can see how those patterns start to move. ⁓ And the more ⁓ that people fight ⁓ and try to rebel and get into the they they they
perpetuate it. But the more they work with, okay, what do I need to work with? What level of energy do I need to work with? All of it starts settling down and going back down to where that belongs. So it is truly, we're in a time where we're watching these patterns, these watching this energy, if you will, or watching these souls, however you want to, they're all just I'm talking about all the same thing right now. It's all the same thing trying to find a home.
Trying to find a place to play this whole thing out again. Right. And so part of my inner leadership ⁓ is to recognize what's me and not me, right? And then start discerning. That's a great story you told about having that situation. And then you you pick it up from the other person than the other person and all this kind of thing. It's like, you know, the sour grapes of ⁓ now you tune into.
All the history of my great grandfather's grandfather, you know, the whole thing starts coming right down to me because I'm I'm picking it up. And so that's that energy of being aware that there's these patterns, these waves of energy that move through, which is why we talk about okay, what's the theme of the month? Why do we get together in those ⁓ you know, those those memberships and stuff? Because we can come and regroup, okay.
Teresa Shantz (00:19:39)
There's these waves of things that are moving through, but what's the spiritual energy I need to be a part of? What's the solution that's there? In this case, by the time this when everybody you're watching this, is that's that energy of loyalty. It's there available for me for a solution. Absolutely. ⁓ And I guess what comes to me too is regarding, you know, the the waves and the patterns, which is kind of funny because I just watched a podcast this morning talking about.
The patterns of life and all the things that happen on the planet, like, you know, the Spanish flu, then came the COVID, then down the road there'd be something else. And like there's patterns of everything. And what really comes to me as you're talking about the patterns and the waves of energy moving around the planet is it's looking for a place to find, like you said, home, but it's looking for groups of people that still are engaged in that fear, that have not stepped back and go, okay.
I'm working on myself and now, yeah, you know, we all have fear, but it's like, how can I regroup around that? How can I understand what I'm feeling? Like going through and getting a bit, I'll say, a little possessed by this person's other person that was coming at them, right? If I did not know and and recognize what was going on with me, ⁓ I'm I'm possessed. That's it. I'm absolutely possessed. And I was on the way home. I had all these thoughts in my head, and I was like,
I get home and then I had an outburst. And then I'm like, ⁓ what the heck is that about? But because I've also gotten to the point in my spiritual evolution is I can get to a point where I don't take it further. Right. I don't go, let me get the gun ⁓ and it's funny, but seriously, that's probably what a lot of these confused souls are experiencing when they're dispossessed. Yep. And they go out and they do things that are just off the freaking wall.
And so, ⁓ yeah, so that not being able not r and and recognizing wha you know, what are we feeling within us? Am I feeling fearful? Am I feeling more r relaxed or or you know, that I can get through this life without being attacked or whatever, then the confusion won't c find their way to me. Does that make sense? You know what strikes me is ⁓ there's a lot of talk in ⁓ media recently. I I've noticed there's a upsurge in
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people joining, getting back into religion ⁓ or finding religion for the first time. And I mentioned this before, and another area is demons. You know, they're talking about evil and demons. In the last 50 years of my life, people have sort of ⁓ evil was kind of on the down low. You know, it wasn't the sort of thing people said. Now they're openly saying it. And what strikes me is the demon in me is what attracts the demons.
You know, in other words, the confusion in me attracts the confusion. If I have fear or if I'm so caught up in an ideology that that generates a hate, I'm going to attract that somehow. And I always get a kick out of both sides of say, let's pick politics, how you know, one side will call the others a liar and then the other side calls them a the other side a liar. And
When you really look at what they're saying, even if they're talking about different intellectual concepts, it's the same energy, you know, doom and my god, and fear and you know, ⁓ justice and retribution and and all that. So, anyways, I mean, folks who ⁓ you know are thoroughly in engrossed in that are probably not going to listen to what we have to say, but
If you're ready to take a move out of that ⁓ old pattern, you know, start working with the Wayshowers College subscriptions, where we can start to replace old concepts with new spiritual truths. But the big key is we get to, we experience it. So you feel it. So it becomes more real. It becomes more the way that I operate my modus operandi through the world rather than ⁓ you know.
the way I've been trained to do it. Y you know, ⁓ just to wrap up at least on the on the possessive and possessed part, you know, the this can ⁓ there's there's been so much fanfare over that and we watch movies about it and the exorcists and you know your head turns around and all this kind of crup. You know, so it it becomes something to be fearful about, right? When when ⁓ in reality it's more of what you're saying. Okay, the
Teresa Shantz (00:24:22)
The negative in me will attract the negative out there. Now, that doesn't mean that, if I'm pure holy, that there isn't gonna be negative out there. That's not what we're saying. But it's very easy to get stuck into some weird thinking. And then all of a sudden I start having that bias of where I'll start attracting more and more of that. And ⁓ one of the things you can see, and and ⁓ you know.
⁓ Everybody seems to have YouTube and a phone or something. But they have these ⁓ little shorts where you can watch these young people will get arrested, right? For whatever reason, they're trespassing or whatever. And ⁓ initially it's innocuous. It's very s you know, like it's stupid. And then all of a sudden, finally, when the the police officer says, Well, I've talked to you for the last 15 minutes about this and you're still doing so, we're gonna take you in, right? And the moment that that starts happening.
It's like all of a sudden everybody goes A-B, right? The person just starts going nuts. ⁓ Right. And that's that same thing of where I'm I'm already in a situation. I'm already locked in. Right. Instead of saying, whoa, ⁓ the cop is here. Let me pull my act together. Right. Right. Even if the cop is wrong, wait a minute. Yeah. I don't need.
To escalate all this situation for myself, forget about whether that's right or wrong. For this is why we talk about the spiritual community, you gotta be aware of what your rights and wrongs are. Not that there isn't boundaries and you don't want somebody to, you know, step on your blue suede shoes. It's wait a minute, the whole right and wrong, the justice and injustice, that's a slippery slope there. So, but you see, these young people will, the moment they put their hands on them, it's almost like,
Boom, they just start going nuts. ⁓ Right. And it's that energy of where they're already in it. They're already in it. And it just takes the trigger to then get fully possessed about that idea. ⁓ kicking and screaming, the whole thing. It's almost like they're kids. It's like a tantrum. It's a tantrum thing. And and yet the one little moment to just say, okay, hold on. Okay, I'll comply. What do you need? Right? All right, great. We'll do that.
Teresa Shantz (00:26:47)
And then go make ⁓ the the report if you want, whatever. And I'm not, don't get me wrong, I'm a little bit of a rebel. So, you know, I'm not saying this just do whatever people say. It's just I'm making that as an example of how, and if someone, ⁓ myself included, if I start stewing an ⁓ idea and it's wrapped up with some kind of fear, right? I'm gonna lose something ⁓ or something's gonna happen that I don't want.
That little thing just takes one little trigger and I'm now off and running. And something is using me. ⁓ I'm not even charge anymore. And that's that energy why I think you brought up about the loyalty is like, wait a minute. Now I'm more loyal to something out there rather than what's in my best interest. I'm playing a game out rather than what do I need to be doing here. And that's being that inner leadership, that's being in charge. And that keeps me safe.
From all the people who do get caught up, like the stories you're talking about with the guns and the getting shot. If I'm in that spot where I'm in charge of myself, I will find myself moving away from the areas that have problems. ⁓ And I don't even have to be a psychic. I don't even have to be able to tell the future. I just will find myself ⁓ gravitate away from that. ⁓ Or something will happen where it's like,
I missed the opportunity to go there. And then it turns out that was good that I didn't go there, you know? ⁓ Something like that. So it the bottom line is it's amazing how if I get caught up with an idea and I take put some emotion, emotion, not feelings, emotion behind the idea, it only takes one little trigger and off I go. And the whole thing will consume me. But you know, ⁓ being able to not go off on that trigger and can be consumed by something.
It it's ⁓ it's a s it's a slippery slope and it's also something that we've all been ⁓ invested in, I'll say, ⁓ for a long, long time. ⁓ Like, you know, ⁓ our parents and their parents and the great grandparents and you know, I just did a post today 'cause it's my birthday and I was ⁓ saying how, you know, I did a I I did a gratitude thing of, you know, with my mom and dad and my dad's been passed on since along ninety-two and my mom's still here and I just said something like, you know, was
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I still connect with my dad, you know, on the other side, but my mom and I have done some really great family healing. ⁓ And so I ⁓ just think about the fact that, you know, all the people that are out there really acting out ⁓ in different ways. And I'm even talking like Iran and different, you know, over in the Middle East, and all the people that are acting out and killing people over there and doing things that are just off the wall, they're at a certain sp they're at a certain place in their
in their lineage of healing and f and you know, trying to work with stuff. And sometimes, you know, there we may have been there six or eight or ten or twelve, you know, lifetimes ago and gotten to a point now where we can actually work on and like you're saying, you know, we can actually know what we're coming up against and and, you know, and do the ⁓ the, you know, why am I losing this now? 'Cause it's 'cause it's like leaving my ⁓
Well, I it's discerning, discerning. Yeah. ⁓ Well, we could we could wind this back. You know, we we kind of open with like the big deals, like the big traumatic events in society, but ⁓ I could bring it back to just having a nice evening, ⁓ enjoying yourself with friends, and then somebody says something ⁓ or puts pressure on you or me, and then all of a sudden there's a fear of losing something or a fear of
Having mucked up and all of a sudden the whole nights deflated. That's right. Because of one little ⁓ interaction. When ⁓ I had this happen to me recently, where really my my feeling, like what I realized is I need to be more loyal to myself and discern, stop for a moment instead of doing the same old thing I've always done. let me fix it. Stop and just say, okay, is this some a conversation I need to get involved in right now?
you know, acknowledge the concern and then there's a time and place to have that discussion. So, ⁓ you know, it's just a little thing. I mean, you could be out partying and have a great social night. And then at the end of the night somebody can say something to you that just, you know, or me bursts my bubble. Well, you know, ⁓ now that's something I've got to take a look at. Well, I think that also it de
Teresa Shantz (00:31:37)
For a while I'm possessed while I'm like still thinking about it all night and the next day and that kind of thing. That can be determined by like where am I at? If if it's at the end of the day, I get up at four AM and I'm fucking tired. Yeah. ⁓ Then I'm my you know, my boundaries are lower. My my energy's lower. So so That's a good point. Yeah. When your energy's lower and you need some rest, it's always that's something that's been occurring to me. Like take the nap or Well, yeah, Tom. And also like when you're in the band and stuff happens in the third hour and you've been
You've been there already six hours after by the time you put everything together and you've you know you think you know what I'm talking about, huh? I know what you're talking about. Cause I hear it over and over and over. ⁓ It kind of repeats, Tom, until you get it and go, hey, I'm not. And that's okay, honey. That's your journey. Cause I and I honor that. ⁓ I mean, ⁓ so it's an opportunity. There you go. Let's let's go to that point place. It's an opportunity. So
we have this tragedy happen, and it's an opportunity now for me to step up and move past any fear. This is an opportunity right now, this month, to move past my old fears, my old patterns. Am I gonna keep going down that same place? Well, I know where that leads. Everybody knows their old patterns. They know where that leads. It's not an you know, it's not a surprise per se. So, where do I want to go?
And spiritually, life is meant to be an adventure. It's meant to be a path of discovery. So ⁓ I feel I'm on that path. Do I feel if I'm not, then there's no need to complain. There's no need to say, my parents, ⁓ my but the money, this, ⁓ the government that. No, no, no, no, no, no. You've just blown a bunch of energy. Instead of saying, I'm not where I want to be, okay. ⁓
How do I get there? Okay, what do I need to do? Who are the people I need to connect with? Right. It just ⁓ the the we're just regrouping with somebody. Knowledge is limiting, right? There's an ⁓ Einstein quote about that. But creativity is everything. It is everything. It is, it is the essence ⁓ of the soul on display, right? To let that creativity come out.
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So I'm not saying let's make light of these terrible things that are happening. I'm saying let's use them as an opportunity to move forward. Let's use the whole month as an opportunity to set our energy so that when we start the spiritual new year in September, we're doing something with it. That I've already got momentum moving into it. Otherwise, guess what? Last year will be just like this coming year because I haven't changed. I've just put
New lipstick on the pig and here we go again wrestling. I was gonna say, Hey Tiger, what if I like to be fearful? There you go. Well then you got plenty. Hey. There's plenty of opportunity for that. A lot to work with. ⁓ Plenty of opportunity. Well, I've often said, you know, you're gonna keep doing it until you get tired of it. That's right. There's ⁓ a there's why these patterns keep showing up. That's right. All these patterns, and like you're saying, with the young kids that don't know anything about World War Two and things in the past that have happened.
Well, if if they don't if they're parents and then they don't understand the lessons, they're gonna have to redo it. That's it. Learn it until you get the the lesson. And so the challenge with that is making sure that the rest of us, with everybody listening, is if you are aware of those things, if you are clear about what you need to move toward, is having clear direction because otherwise I'm going to get caught up in other people's learning lessons. I'll get
I'll get stimulated by the great grandfather of the great grandfather of all this kind of stuff because I don't have that clear direction. ⁓ And ⁓ I can't be in two places at once. ⁓ Right. I mean, ⁓ the I can think of a lot of thoughts. ⁓ Like we all can think of a lot of thoughts. My gosh, I'm sure now with all ⁓ people watching the, you know, TikTok and all the shorts, ⁓ we're going through a lot of concepts really fast.
But still at the end of the day, I can only think and process one thing at a time, right? Like if I think about slicing a pipe piece of pie, right? Imagine a pie that you like and you're slicing that piece of pie. And then you can also think about needing to clean ⁓ the house, ⁓ right? Now you can think about them.
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I can think about this and I can think about this, but I can't actually think about them simultaneously. Right? I can't think about slicing the pie ⁓ simultaneously thinking about cleaning the house. I can I can flip back and forth, but I can't really do them all at once. ⁓ Right. And that's that symbolism of my energy. I can only be put my energy into one thing to have a result if I get my energy scattered.
I'm not gonna be able to produce anything because I'm all over the place. I I really feel sad for you, Tiger, because I can eat a key lime pie and clean the damn floors. ⁓ I don't know what you're talking about. ⁓ Just saying. ⁓ So we started today with talking technically that's not true. Yes, why? ⁓ Because it might be a nanosecond, but you're doing one thing ⁓ at a different time. I'm chewing and I'm sweeping.
Or I'm chewing and I'm vacuuming. And a lot of times I drink when I do things too. Drink wine. I am freaking talented. ⁓ Multitasker. ⁓ I'm women are. So yeah, multitasking. So we started this conversation with asking a question. Who are you choosing to become while the world is changing? So let's let's move a little bit back into that because that there's a choice. That's it. We have a choice. ⁓ And so Tom, what's your take on? I'm glad you brought that.
us back to that because what's been on my mind for the last couple of minutes is just how ⁓ recognizing that people are gonna be who they are or they're gonna you know certain things are gonna come up. So it what I can change is my ⁓ response ⁓ and ⁓ what was the question again? How did you put that? Because who are you choosing to become all the time? Who am I choosing to become is ⁓
Do I want to be the victim? ⁓ And so, ⁓ you know, where, you know, I think a symptom of that, if I'm in victim mode, I'm starting to say, well, they shouldn't have never said that to me. And I, and that was so wrong. And, you know, even if it's a little thing, right? ⁓ that is instead of going, okay, they have that concern. Is that any of my business? Like, is that something I need to deal with right now?
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What's the solution? Okay, let's get together later and we'll discuss that, you know, a better way forward. Or let's fix that now. You know, whatever, whatever checks in the moment. But the feeling I have is okay, like as Triger was describing earlier, it's like, okay, let's move forward. Okay, what's okay, what let's move, acknowledge the concern, whether I think it was true or not. What's the solution? Move forward to the cr using my creativity to move forward.
⁓ I I guess I'll I'll state the obvious, ⁓ and that is choice. ⁓ I have choice because I am a soul with a physical body, and I have a plan here, and I chose that. ⁓ I chose that. I chose my spiritual helpers, I chose my parents, I chose my situation, and I chose this time. ⁓ And there's a
The whole thing is choice. Now, I may be unconscious of a lot of that, but in the end, I do have that choice. ⁓ And ⁓ if I'm ⁓ exercising it, ⁓ if I'm exercising, now I don't have to go around thinking all the time, I'm gonna make this choice, and I'm gonna make this choice. I'm just saying if I'm exercising that I'm in charge of my energy, that is a healing for not only myself.
For my physical body, for the people in my environment, and for the places I go worship or go to work. You know, the it just it just expands. ⁓ If I can can be a little bit consistent with that, I mean I'm in charge of my energy. And I need to be respectful that everybody else is in charge of their energy. Right. So I'm not here to overwhelm someone in in what they're to do.
I'm here to be directed in my energy. And there's like a little technique we used to do. It's a simple technique, right? And you take your hand and you you put it like this, right? If we're if you can't now if you're just listening, you put your palm up and you take your finger, other hand, and you put it right in the middle of your palm, and you go, This is my ballpark. I can do what I want in my ballpark. ⁓ I make the rules in my ballpark.
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If you don't like my ballpark, you can get the hell out of my ballpark. ⁓ Right. ⁓ And and it's it was it's just it was an old simple technique to remind me that I'm in charge of my energy. I'm in charge of me. ⁓ And that whole thing of who am I becoming, that's my choice. So do I want to do that or not? And everything else after that, I can let go ⁓ and let someone else.
Play that game because there's always going to be the injustice. ⁓ There's always going to be the excuse. ⁓ There's always going to be the right and wrong. But what won't always be here ⁓ is me and what I've come to do. That is unique to me and unique to everyone listening to this. Am I doing that? Because that's what I've come to do at this time.
Limited time. ⁓ Limited time only. We're just renting. We're just renting. And I yeah, for myself the choice is a big deal because I have a choice in everything that I do, I can do it or not do it. ⁓ And I I've and I've been this way in the past too, where I've, you know, been led by other people and done things that maybe if I had a thought more about it or had, you know, felt more into what am I doing, I may not have made that choice. ⁓ Like, you know, ⁓
all kinds of things. Yeah, think because we have these, you know, ways that we've reacted, I have had these ways I've reacted over my lifetime that in some ways have been successful in the sense that the game I wanted to play, they're good at they're good for that. You know, if I want to play the victim, ⁓ you know, I can play the victim. If I want to get caught in the justice or injustice of something, I have my ways of
being involved in that to feel superior or something like that, you know, which is just more of an emotional thing rather than a true feelings you know thing. Yeah. So now let's let's end this with ⁓ back back to this month, which is August of twenty twenty six, and we're moving in we're in the energy of loyalty. So let's let's wind this ⁓ up with wrap this up with some positive vibes on loyalty. Yeah. I the so to wrap it up for me, it really has to do with ⁓
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Coming back home whenever I'm not feeling happy. Right? ⁓ I don't need to be running around like a clown all the time. I'm just saying, do I feel I'm moving forward? Am I happy about what I have? Am I happy that I'm moving forward? And that's a that's my barometer. If I don't feel it's that old saying is if if you can't be happy at all times, something's wrong. It doesn't mean I'm wrong. It just that's my barometer. It's like, well, wait a minute.
Because if I'm doing what I want to do, doing what I need to do, it's more natural to feel happy, feel good. So it's really about, okay, this is the time to get myself back on my path and then to be consistent about it. And when I feel, just like you were saying, Tom, when I feel that thing come in ⁓ that wants me to play the old game, that wants me to play out someone else's game.
Or interact with something that's not healthy for me, ⁓ I can say, yeah, Olay, I remember that. I remember that. ⁓ And there the psychiatrists have a thing about, you know, observe ⁓ the thought. Instead of jumping in and getting involved in it, it's actually an old stoic thing for thousands of years ago. But basically, I observe the thought. Rather than engaging with it, I observe the thought.
So it it puts me back to that higher energy as a soul of who who I am, what I've come to do. This is the opportunity to do it. When I have all that extra backing from loyalty to self to so that I can be of service to people, ⁓ and and find people of like mind. And then the the last piece is ⁓ I need to be willing ⁓ to ⁓ love enough ⁓ to let people go.
I need to be love people enough to let them go. And what I mean by that is just not throw away people. I'm saying if I free people, if I stop being possessive over ideas and people and things, ⁓ I free them. And the things that actually need to be a part of my life and my journey will hover with me, will will be in my orbit. But if I get possessive,
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I'm getting involved with the past and all the past loyalties and all the past sour grapes and all that good stuff. But when I start be willing to let people go, ⁓ let my old ideas go and just get back into that loyalty and what I've come to do, this is a tremendous time for that. And I would be shocked, or you would be shocked at how free and how simple everything becomes.
For me, when you're you know, what we're sharing about is just I I gotta choose to be the leadership that I am or not. And ⁓ it's okay to play the game, ⁓ but by being loyal to myself, I start to become more aware and then I start to become ⁓ a better leader of myself and I I also ⁓ relate to what you're
sharing in that, you know, I've just got to respect what other folks have decided to go through. You know, usually when I'm disappointed or hit, it's like I've I've projected, I know as a visionary, I'll I'll have projected on to them what I think they should be doing. And then when they don't, you know, I'm like missing the point that, you know, they're gonna be who they are. They're gonna they're gonna I can see where they're headed. Great, but it's not up to me to somehow
fix them or save them, ⁓ the best way I can do that really is be loyal to myself so that the energy that radiates out from me ⁓ is is a positive, loving, accepting vibration. And ⁓ you know, so that to me, this is what life's all about, you know, that I can, ⁓ I can have an understanding, you might say, of what spiritual ⁓ ideas are, but if I'm involved in the school of life where
you know, ⁓ as much as I preach love and inner peace, I'm gonna get zinged if I'm ⁓ my motives get off. You know, if I'm starting to participate ⁓ in ⁓ you know, trying to change people or save people when they're not ready for that. ⁓ that's when my troubles can start showing up again. And ⁓ anyway, it's I think it's like an unfolding it's
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We always say this, just it's a constant unfolding of awareness, but allowing the true power that I have within ⁓ to shine ⁓ and practice that more. Yeah, I guess for myself, it's about the choice ⁓ and also about not judging ⁓ others, kind of what you're saying, Tom, but not judging others of where what they're wanting to become. Because they they need to go through their learnings just as I need to go through my learning. So ⁓ and and giving them distance.
giving them space. So whatever you choose to become out there, listeners, we hope that you access the energy of loyalty for the month of August and moving forward into the spiritual new year in September, which of course we'll have more sharing between now and then, but ⁓ and really ⁓ access it to ⁓ have more positive energy, to express yourself and what you want to share with the world. And also do it in a fearless way. And screw that fear.
⁓ So until next time, thanks so much for joining us.
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Yeah. ⁓