Awakening through Cosmic Phenomena & Human Consciousness Deceptions

Themes of AWARENESS, DECEPTION and PERSONAL GROWTH are what is explored in this week’s episode. We explore two significant stories: the local case of Ian Roberts, a superintendent facing immigration issues, and the cosmic event of the 3 I / Atlas comet. The speakers reflect on human reactions to news, the importance of understanding individual backgrounds, and the broader implications of cosmic phenomena on human consciousness.

Find out as the conversation delves into the spiritual perspectives of these stories.  "There's no side to take."

Teresa and Tom emphasize themes of awareness, deception, and the ability to gain insight into events and stories available to all.  They cover recognizing emotional reactions to news, the importance of tuning into one's own true feelings and sensitivity for clarification, and the broader implications of cosmic phenomena on human consciousness.  

Points include:

• Fear often drives media narratives around significant events.
• Awareness of our reactions leads to greater unfoldment.
• We can subconsciously attract certain situations to ourselves.
• Spiritual growth involves recognizing and addressing our personal deceptions.
• Spiritual perspectives provide deeper insights into human experiences.
• The 3 I/Atlas comet symbolizes a broader cosmic awareness.

Comet 3I/Atlas update with Anton Petrov

Ian Roberts’ full immigration criminal timeline released

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Chapters

• 0:00 The Story of Ian Roberts: A Spiritual Perspective
• 17:50 3 I/Atlas: "An Inner Stellar" Exploration

Transcript

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So this week there are two stories I would like to propose. One's close up to us, close by, and then one's far, far away. Which one do want to go through first? Well, let's talk about what's closer to home. Okay, closer to home. So this is a story about Ian Roberts, a gentleman from Guyana who was ⁓ serving as a superintendent in Des Moines, the area of the country we live in, of the biggest school system in Des Moines.

all that happened to him this weekend and some insights that we picked up around what's this really about? Yes. Yes. The spiritual perspectives. Exactly. Because it's all over the it's all over the the internet. It's been all over the news cycles on the big news cycles because he was in Pennsylvania for a while in New York City. He was been in Des Moines for several years. So and for myself, the way a couple years, couple years. Yeah. And for myself, I have a really I met him.

So I met him back in May at an event we had at our, my office and real charismatic dressed to the nines. Matter of fact, he was so charismatic. was drawn right to him and I'm making the rounds in the room at our, at an open house. And I walked up to him I'm like, hi, I'm Teresa. Who are you? And he told me who he was. And I was just like, so impressed. So he impressed me. He impressed the people that are in my office. He impressed obviously a lot of people around Des Moines and

It's quite interesting the things that have kind of transpired in the past week. Yeah, getting arrested by ICE for not being able to legally work in the United States of America. And ⁓ as the reports come out, he's got a long track record of, you know, dealing with the immigration system, not winning green cards for some reason or another. think it might be because he did have some ⁓

you know, legal convictions, or he pled guilty to having a firearm, which an illegal alien or an alien is not allowed to have, I guess, a legal alien is not allowed to have a firearm. So, ⁓ so interesting, because it struck me, you know, the first thing we saw when the news broke was that, you know, he'd been arrested and the school board

was very supportive of them initially, like, we're gonna put them on paid leave for a while. then it turned to unpaid leave. And then it, now they're to the point where they're suing the search firm. And I had heard in the news reports that they're suing ⁓ Dr. Roberts or Ian Roberts for... ⁓

false statements essentially, the, you know, the fraud that he perpetrated about being able to work in the United States, claiming he was a US citizen, uh, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. So what's it's all about. Yeah. I mean, for me, what was really interesting was the reactions, you know, at first, like, Oh, how could they do this to this guy? And then the second was, over time, you know, as, as the facts unfolded, we get to this point where

Now the school board is like in full, let's go after him, you know, kind of mode, like how they switch their, their thinking around it. ⁓ And, you know, we have friends that were like, my God, that's so horrible. I arrested him and that kind of thing. And then ⁓ as the facts come out, though, you know, it's a little, it's a little different story. But I I'm looking forward to sharing this from the spiritual perspective. ⁓

As I know you are. Absolutely. That's why we're here. So what would you like to say at this point? Well, I like to say first is that, you know, being human, which we all are, and recognizing for myself that there's been many times when I have jumped to conclusions about a specific person or a specific incident or event without getting any facts whatsoever. But it's my first initial reaction. Yeah.

I think that's a good point. It's like a, it's the way how it works with me is like this emotional reaction to something and, ⁓ you know, kind of this, a sense of disbelief. And, you know, we're going to talk about like the difference between my emotional reactions and what my true feelings are taking a deep breath and getting a feeling for things.

Yeah, but so I guess, you know, but it does come back to that initial, I'm a human person, right? I know that I understand more spiritually about what's the bigger picture, but I'm a human. So when I came into work on Monday and you know, several of my coworkers who knew him really well and had interactions with them were like, what the heck, right? Yeah. And the first thing that I, cause I didn't know anything about it either, except for what I had kind of heard over the weekend, but

I, my initial thing was I said to them is, know, a, do you really know people? Do you really know the underlying of where people, what they've done, where they've come from? And we can probably, most of us can probably say no. It's, it's, it's the shoes we individually walk in and sometimes the chaos and the trouble and the things that transpire along our paths. So that was my first.

thought about it and feeling of it on Monday when we came in and people are starting to talk about it is the fact that well, a lot of times we don't know what people are really going through or have been through. Yeah. And I suppose, ⁓ you know, people say to themselves, wow, I got fooled. And sometimes there's, I don't want to admit that I was fooled by somebody. And, ⁓ you know, honesty is the cornerstone of love.

And so when I feel, when someone lies to me, know, there's a subconsciously, know, my sensitivity will feel disrespected. And that's where sometimes I think that can, doesn't feel good. You know, so I want to either not look at that or I don't want to experience that or, you know, I can have a reaction to, to the person.

So, you know, for me, I don't judge this fellow at all. You know, that I don't feel like, good, they got them or I'm not gloating. I actually, some of my feelings are, you know, this guy does have charisma. And from, you know, some of what we heard that people in the school district, know, what we're, you know, it's been, he was doing a good job. You know, the students liked him.

He came across well and as you said he had charisma and so ⁓ Where I go with this spiritually is how does someone that's successful that's got You know, yeah, like was being paid like 300 almost $300,000 a year former Olympic athlete, you know Yeah, making good dough really good dough. know, how did he set himself up? for this situation that's

the number one from the spiritual perspective. and then how do I relate it to myself is that, you know, by ignoring things that in my feelings that come up that I don't want to look at or procrastinate on or whatever, you know, it can come back around somehow. And so, you know, people could be upset with the system. But on the other hand, he didn't work the system very well. And I would say that, you know, I

lived in Australia for 28 years and I had to, you know, file for visas and I did all the proper things you're supposed to do and I could work. I was a permanent resident, you know, in Australia and for decades. So, you know, I played the game, right? I played the game and I made sure that I and I didn't get arrested for something that, you know, I shouldn't be arrested for. So I think that's some of the

the interesting things and, to relate to the individual. Like, again, I'm not judging you. It's just like, what a lesson in ignoring those things that I need to take care of. Yeah. And I think for this specific situation, and it's so interesting though, how there's been so much about ice in Chicago and in Los Angeles and all these big cities and all the things that are going on. This is a hot topic. I'm not saying like hot, like, ⁓ boy. This is a hot topic that like people are boiling about, right?

Like you're taking all, you know, you're taking away all the illegals and you're taking them from the crops and all kinds of things I've heard around people saying to me or saying about the situation of working with ICE and deportation. so first off, this is a very hot subject and second. So what does it bring right now when there's one specific person pinpointed so specifically out of the whole country? And also I'll go energetically like

He was in the heartland of America. He was in the center of the country when all this happened. And of course he'd stem from other areas. So there's something about that that's important in regards to perhaps recognizing individually, where is a person at energetically with their level of consciousness from going from, that's a horrible thing to happen, which it really was, but also look what he did.

you know, where are people at? And I think it's really stimulating, just recognizing, you know, for, for an individual and for myself specifically, like, okay, so where am I at when these things happen? And, you know, the feelings I have that are, that are stimulated from them and from an event. I, know, ⁓ I guess I come back to my true feelings, feel no judgment. ⁓ he's going to have to work.

within our society, you know, we have rules and regulations and we have, you know, boundaries and ⁓ he didn't work those wells. So if I was working with him individually and I'm not really, you know, tuning into anything, but I, you know, there's a pattern there of, you know, not following through ⁓ or taking care of something he really needed to take care of.

Now, as it turns out, as more information came out, he did apply for a green card a number of times it was turned down. And of course we don't have any other facts as to why he would have been turned down. And you know, the interesting thing is, is it was actually the ⁓ previous administration, the Biden, it was during the Biden administration that the, the ⁓ immigration judge issued the deportation order. that was the order that was also back to Obama. No, to Biden.

But wasn't it back further? I thought it was back to a well, he's been working. friggin matter. The bottom line during the Biden's administration was the last deportation order. OK, the applied from the know, the story that we heard the latest update from, know, a few hours ago was that he had applied for a green card, permanent residency a few times and was denied. So I have no facts as to why he was denied. But again, there's something that.

wasn't taken care of. And of course, I relate to the guy, you know, he wants to, you know, follow through with ⁓ great opportunity from from what we can gather, you know, for the most part, he did a good job. And ⁓ what I also find interesting is how now they're going to look back into his past and say, my God, he was involved in ⁓ fixing grades and so forth because of one person that

Had a lawsuit against the Baltimore school district or where he was working. Now we're going to take that, know, everybody starts jumping to conclusions, which is kind of coming full circle to what you're saying is that until the facts are outlaid now, really for me to get involved in all that, that's his journey. That's his back and forth, his karma, whatever you want to call it.

I still come back around to, what is it that he ignored or didn't clarify, you know, at the right time that led to this situation? I have another angle on it as well from a spiritual perspective. I was going to say too that you recently, right after, you know, we heard all the ins, you know, the things that started kind of the speculations, I got kind of fizzled out. And then this is the facts. Now you mentioned to you, energetically, you picked up on something about Guyana.

Well, so I had this impression that, ⁓ you know, he's got unfinished business in Guyana. And that's could be one of the reasons like subconsciously, he's not conscious of it so much, but subconsciously, he he hasn't completed certain steps or clarified, you know, his immigration status for one reason or another. And ⁓

I mean, it could be as simple, he was convicted. So they weren't going to give him a green card. You know, he pled guilty to a gun charge, you know? So I don't know. I don't know. doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. But when one looks at one's journey, you know, or if I look at my journey, how I relate this to me is, is that, you know, why do I end up in certain places or why do things sort of flow in a certain direction? Because subconsciously, that's where I

have unfinished business there, or that's where I need to be. And you know, I lived in a how I relate to it personally, as I lived in Australia for, you know, like 28 years. And of course, we've been back since. And I, ⁓ I'm back in the Midwest, you know, I'm back in Iowa, which honestly, 10 years ago, I would have never thought I'd be living here. But I really like it. And I have lots of ⁓ wonderful opportunity, you know, ⁓ in this area. And it really, I always knew that

I had spiritual apprentices here through a profile that we do through the Wayshower College. And that, you know, that's where a lot of opportunity unfolds for me here, you might say. ⁓ anyways, in the bigger spiritual picture, that's what stimulates me about the situation, not the who struck John and whether he was right or wrong. Again, I hope things work out well for him, you know.

Yeah, and I, and just kind of like winding this story up, I feel from, for what I've noticed is that it's just given people a different viewpoint on backgrounds of people, because as, as ice and other situations are happening and people get rounded up and taken out and all these things happen, but oftentimes we really don't know the true background, the full story, full story. So to me, that's why this has happened. And this is, and that's why spiritually it's been really

like the lights been shown on it so much because people are like, ⁓ for those that, mean, there's still many people that probably go, know, it's, I mean, really being on his side and you know what, mean, really there's no side to take. Honestly, it's just being aware. Wow. That's to me, that's the insight. You know, it's like, there's no side to take. No, this isn't my circus. Those aren't my monkeys. This whole, that whole situation as I

As the facts unfold, you know, having a law enforcement background myself, go, wow, well, there's the, there's the facts, you know, there's the situation that, you know, he found himself in. And, ⁓ you know, we can modify the system if we feel that that system isn't fair for people. And we have a process, you know, ideally we have a process through our legislature and, and the courts and so forth to sort of back that up.

Okay, so now that was our close to home one that I really want to talk about. So now I want to share about the one that's further away, which is the three eye Atlas. Let's talk about that. Cause that's all over the news and there's all kinds of people talking about this interstellar comet that is coming, that is into our galaxy system right now and moving through and our solar system, our solar system and

You know, I've seen everything from it's an alien, it's a spaceship, it's, it's not it's and so I thought this would be interesting topic to discuss about spiritually of what we pick up on and also, you know, what is this? What is this truly? Why is this showing up at this time in our, you know, lifetime? So, you know, ⁓ from the spiritual perspective, which is the point of view that we like to, you know, focus on, ⁓

You know, the I'm not so concerned about whether it's an alien craft or in disguise. As I guess a Harvard professor, have you lobe has suggested could be I don't think he's come right out and said it, but he said here's some anomalies, know, based differences between other comments and so forth. And ⁓ but we also heard a video from a very factual guy.

that, you know, kind of explains everything and they're they're they're finding it ⁓ interesting because ⁓ it doesn't act quite the same as other interstellar objects have acted or comments in the past. Yeah, his name is Anton Petrov. Yeah. So he must be Russian or something, but he has. Yeah. And we'll have the video in the show notes for sure. So anyone wants to watch it? But it's it gives such specific information on what it really is.

Yeah, my feelings on it are when I hear about it, I go, whoa, you know, this big object. They believe that ⁓ from the comet perspective, like this is ancient object could have been a piece of a ⁓ planet that fell apart from far away. And they think it's at least millions of years old. And, ⁓ you know, the feeling that I get when I hear about it is like the awe that I have of the.

the expansiveness and the eternity of the universe. That's what I tune into. And then the second idea, that kind of impression that I get is similar to astrology, where planets have influence, you know, in the gravity pole and that kind of thing, is that the underneath what's happening from an energy point of view, you know, what's, what energy or consciousness is riding through or

what's happening from a spiritual perspective. And I don't really know. just, I think I just like to tune into my feelings about these things and then, you know, discern more later or, or have more of an understanding from my intellect later as I get, as the facts unfold.

Yeah, well, it's interesting for myself because I hadn't really watched any videos about it. And I had a friend this week asked me, so what's your perspective on it? What do you, what do you, you know, what are you picking up on? And when I tuned into it, just, you know, and just vaguely tuned into it, not knowing any facts or anything really about it. I just really picked up that it's another piece of our, of becoming aware that there's more out there than what's here on this planet. Yeah. And so

you know, and it hits all kinds of different dimensions this time, because it's like there's science behind it, because it's a comet, you know, it's coming and it's doing some of the things, but kind of weird things that some comets do and some comets don't. And I think the fact that it's just it's very unique and also really large, that it's hitting people in all kinds of areas. It's hitting the scientific groups, it's hitting the metaphysical groups, it's hitting the spiritual groups, it's hitting

who knows what the religious groups are saying. They're probably saying that, you know, this is part of Jesus coming back. I don't know. So, but it's hitting everyone. And that's really the, the energy and the feeling that I got around just tuning into it is that it's really part of where we're at right now and the expansive awareness of there's more out there. And also with, you know, some of the things we've been in, in contact with the last couple of years, like, like Dr. Steven Greer, who talks about, you know, context, CE five and contact with other

you know, galactic extraterrestrials, that that's also part of it. Like, again, that's outside of our, you know, earthly beings, earthly atmosphere and the people we were working with here. So I just feel it's really another step of of what we're all opening up to. I think that's the key, you know, for me as we were evaluating all this. And sometimes it's fun, you know, to get into the who struck John and so forth. And

You know, I have an engineering and a law enforcement background, so my intellect is well, I'm well educated. And so I like to hear all the facts and I can kind of being a visionary, I can see the timelines of things and so forth. But what you were just sharing, you know, was that, you know, when I come down to what is the feeling I have about this and ⁓ similar to the previous story, you know, I just go, wow, wonder or holy smokes, things are.

bigger and more beautiful than I realize and a sense of curiosity about ⁓ that expansive bigger picture. At the same time, I have a feeling of the synchronicity of everything and how it all fits together and how our physics in this physical dimension is consistent, because they're talking about ⁓ the reason that you can see the comet's tail is

because of the sublimation, is, you know, the solid goes into gas, you know, and that happens here on, you know, on planet Earth with ice and certain times of the year, it'll instead of melting, just goes right into the atmosphere. So, wow, and how consistent that is, you know, across this physical universe. So it's awe inspiring. You know, I think that's all I can take away is what's my feeling about it.

Yeah, it excites me too. And then let the facts unfold. But you know, that's another thing that's different is, is I don't feel fearful about it. You know, that's probably a big key is that I think you wanted to get into this. You mentioned it before, but that all the fear that people create around these stories, you know, or the events that are happening so that it becomes a story where people react and have fears.

Well, it also because fear sells. Yeah. Like if people just recognize what it is, and this is for really any kind of story, right? But I mean, specifically, we're talking about a comet and but yeah, ⁓ what scares people? What what, you know, inspires fear? What gets people, you know, all jived up to they're going to, you know, revved up to to freak out about things. Yeah. And it's funny, because on my computer at work, I have the MSN.

⁓ thing on the bottom where it comes up with the newsreel all day long. It's the earthquake, the volcanoes, it's going to kill everyone, the meteor. I mean, like I am just, I'm actually it's quite entertaining sometimes come like this is kind of funny, but it's not for those that really buy into it. Yeah, I see it as a decoy. Yeah, for me personally, and that, you know, what is my business as a soul and where I am living right now.

You know, the weather's great and we have, ⁓ you know, wonderful opportunities and we work with wonderful people. And, know, we have our little idiosyncrasies that happen between us and our friends and colleagues and so forth and little learning experiences that keep showing up. But, you know, we're not ⁓ in that mode, but somebody else somewhere else on the planet is experiencing, you know, different challenges, you might say. And I suppose I look at it as like.

Well, and we may have our turn, you know, and we're in the Midwest. So tornadoes come through. so there's, there's those challenges, but they're not here today. Which reminds me of that, ⁓ recent top gun, you know, episode, ⁓ or, know, movie that, ⁓ Tom Cruise made and, know, they were talking to him about how he's got to have to retire or worse of that effect. And he's like, well, but not today, sir. know, not today.

So in looking at these two stories, the Ian Roberts one and the three I Atlas, what do you feel is the the the similarity? What what? Because there's always something about these stories we bring forth that there's a similarity or there's something that's, you know, brings them together. I we always come back to one of the first things is for me to be aware of how people use these stories to stimulate me and stimulate my fears. And once anybody's doing that, that's

a way to control me because you know, we do have the physical psychological reactions that we've been trained to have. And that's why we, you know, our brain pays more attention, you know, from the whole competitive survival thing. That's one thing. Yeah, for myself, whenever I tuned into these two stories, I got the word deception. Okay, so it was really about

you know, looking at stories out in the world and what in these two specific ones, they there's some deceiving components to them. Like Ian Roberts, who was he? And he was deceiving a lot of people with, I mean, he probably was as a soul level. He probably is a beautiful soul like we all are, but we all have our, you know, our flaws and our things that we do while we're here and the experiences we go through. And so he was being very deceptive.

clearly. And then the comment, people are putting deception on that as far as, it's an alien craft and when it gets here, they're, you know, they're going to take over all kinds of stuff is being said. So that was the key word I got was deception. Yeah. And I look at it too, from, ⁓

The one is, you know, somebody else's personal journey. I feel for Ian Roberts because...

That's, you know, I relate to that stage of evolution, you know, and I might say where I'm not being completely honest with myself as to my situation. So it starts there. I need to be, how do I become more honest with myself is really tuning into more of my true feelings. Now I'm still going to emotionally react to things. It's part of the game. It's

And then I'm going to go, ⁓ you know, I'm reacting to this. What's got me stimulated here? You know, what's the fear that that's blocking my true feelings? ⁓ But, know, working with spirit, you know, I believe we're as souls, we're all equal, but we're we all have different levels of experience and, you know, unique journeys based on our own experience. So, you know, that's where I believe that whole idea of ⁓ not, you know,

Don't waste my time judging because it's all about growing in awareness. So growing in awareness is where I go to the next stage with the Three-Eye Atlas is that here's an opportunity for us to grow in awareness about our physical universe and then maybe tune into the feeling of spiritually what's happening. And I come back to what you had said when we were in the green room, which is that, you know, there's probably an energy

⁓ spiritual energy perspective here, where that energy is moving into our solar system, and delivering ⁓ or foreshadowing a new wave of, you know, expansion. So that's kind of, that's, that's sort of the feelings that I have of it. ⁓ In my feelings, it's going to move into our solar system, and it's going to move out. And ⁓

you know, even if it was aliens in a, in a, well, camouflage starship that are, you know, doing reconnaissance, what the heck are we going to do about it? Nothing. You know, like I still got to get up this morning and go to work or move through my opportunities with my family. So, uh, just another day in paradise. Just another day in paradise. Okay. Well, I think those two,

pretty much sum up for this week. think we're good. Yeah. Right. Sounds good. Yeah. And it can be fun. You know, it can be fun to get caught up in all of it. The point is, is I can't let myself get too far down that road, you know, or I start to ignore what am I here to do?

So thanks for watching or listening to another episode of Spiritual Perspectives Discerning News. We hope that you maybe gain some insights around people you might see out there doing different things in the world and things flying by your house and our planet in different times of the the months and and enjoy, you know, picking up those spiritual perspectives. We'll see you again soon. See you soon.

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