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Spiritual Perspectives: Discerning News-Dimming the Sun, Oh Canada! and 90 Years Young Solutions
SPIRITUAL perspectives on current events and how MANIPULATING natural systems, the importance of balancing INTELLECT with INTUITION in decision-making, and the collective sensitivity to truth and resonance in spirituality.
The conversation this week emphasizes the need for awareness and discernment in navigating complex issues. In this conversation, the speaker explores themes of empowerment, timing, and the spiritual aspects of personal growth. They discuss the importance of respecting the process of change, the role of emotions like anger in healing, and the significance of service in finding fulfillment.
The dialogue emphasizes the need for organization and awareness of personal boundaries while navigating group dynamics. The conversation culminates in an inspiring story of a 90-year-old woman dedicated to animal rescue, illustrating the profound impact of service and the importance of staying true to one's purpose.
Season 1 Episode 19 of "...Discerning News."hosted by Teresa Shantz, Author and Podcast Host, Tom Shantz, "The Spiritual Businessman" along with Tiger Coll, D.D., President, Wayshowers College (SM).
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Dimming the Sun
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/block-sunlight-british-scientists-global-warming-b2740295.html
Canadian Election
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4jd39g8y1o
90 Year Old Saves over 10,000 Animals
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/90-year-old-who-has-saved-over-10000-animals-at-sanctuary-has-
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And we are back for another episode of Spiritual Perspective Discerning News. You guys ready? man, I'm ready. Well, I know I'm feeling a lot of stuff going on this week, so let's hit it off. Hey, know, Tom, you wanted to share a little bit before we started, right? Yes. Thank you, Teresa. ⁓ One of the things I'd like to clarify for everybody is that I'd like to remind everybody that we're utilizing these stories as
a way to share about the energy, the spiritual energy behind them, and what's happening on the planet. And in similar events, so that we can relate to the concepts that affect us personally, you might say in our everyday, you know, energy. So also, to have people tune into the positive side or solutions, and how to move through all the different things that are happening.
So that kind of thing. Okay. What do think about that, Tiger? I'm loving it. I mean, it always comes back down to something that I can take with me and something that I can do and be no matter what the situation is or no matter who I'm with. And that's how I know it's something powerful. It's something that transcends just the story that we're working on. You know what's really powerful? Talk to me.
The sun. ⁓ So let's talk about this first story, which is out of the UK. Great segue. Yeah. The powerful mother effing sun. Yeah. Yeah. So a story out of the UK is about that there are scientists over there who are attempting to reduce sunlight. And as a result, they are trying to try to alleviate and bring down the temperature of the earth. Right. Interesting.
So this is actually a $50 million government funded scheme. They actually say scheme in the article that I'm going to, that will be down below with the link. If you want to listen or read it, the funded scheme to combat global warming. It's a geo engineering project that could happen within the next few weeks. What they're doing is they're proposing. And I think this has probably already happened before, but this is a new variation of what they've been doing is launching clouds of reflective particles into the atmosphere.
or using seawater sprays to make clouds brighter, thus also thinning natural cirrus clouds, which seem to act as heat blankets. If successful, less sunlight will reach the Earth's surface and in turn, temperature will cool on the surface of the Earth. In this story, critics have warned it could cause catastrophic disruption to weather patterns and even shift rain from areas that are vital for food production.
This is project is funded by an agency called the Advanced Research and Invention Agency, and it's a government agency. And the government has also given, well, they're going to be using 800 million pounds of taxpayers money in the UK over the next four years to fund this. So I don't know about you guys, but when I saw this story, I felt we need to share a little bit about it, share some spiritual perspective. So Tom, would you like to share a little bit what this stimulates in you and the
spiritual aspect? Well, the first thoughts that, you know, come to mind are that I understand that, you know, England and the UK, it's not that sunny in the first place. So, you know, there's a lot of fury weather compared to places like Australia, where it might make some sense, you know, you might say. Yeah, it just seems like ⁓
I guess in my feelings, so I hear about the story. So what's my first reaction is, it just doesn't feel like there's a need for this. And then I have some knowledge, intellectual knowledge and awareness of the sun and things that have happened in the past. And the sun can just sort of no pun intended, just eclipse with you know, ⁓
the shifts that the for example, when you hit the solar minimum in orbit, I guess every 10 or 12,000 years, you know, there's these like, ⁓ extreme cooling periods and ice ages and all those kinds of things. So we we do live in up on a planet that's got some natural cycles to it. So to ⁓ it seemed my first impression is like, what else are they doing with that money? Where where's that money going? And then a particularly
now that we're finding, you know, with Doge, that there was all kinds of things that, you know, were being funded by the State Department that had certain names and they seem like silly ideas. And it makes me wonder, or USAID or that aid agency, you know, what is the what's really behind this? What? Who's getting paid off? What's what's really happening there? Because it just seems like a crazy, crazy idea. You know, it's my first reaction to it.
But I want to emphasize that for me, what I often do when I hear these stories is well, while I find it intriguing, and I like the science behind it, like, what do they think they're doing? And why and so forth, like right away, it doesn't pass. As you said last week, tiger, like there's something that smells about this. It doesn't, it doesn't feel right. ⁓ Although I have no significant, like, I'm not heated up about it. I don't, I'm not
emotional you be because if it cools earth you'll be good one Tom I mean ⁓ I have you know like all these stories I I have my own life to live and I need to be sensitive to what's going on in my environment and I cannot allow any one thing to take me off of what I've come to do however
I will say this is a good story because I have a little bit of a bone to pick with this one. It's not just the story itself, it's the whole energy surrounding it, right?
you know, the premise behind this has to do with the global warming ⁓ thing, issue, right? And so, you know, these are ideas of how to mitigate or counterbalance this type of thing. ⁓ But there is a lovely nursery rhyme that we teach, we grew up with, and we teach to our children.
And it's about an old lady who swallowed a fly. And ⁓ then she has to swallow a spider to catch the fly. And then she has to swallow a bird to catch the spider to catch the fly. And then a cat to catch the bird to get. And you know, this story just keeps going on and it's, it's a cautionary tale. It's, it's, it's a nursery rhyme to help people know just about this kind of thing where
Regardless of how you feel about the, the global warming thing and whether this is cyclical or whether this is manmade or whether this is some kind of combination. It's like the more we tinker with stuff, the worse it gets. And this has been true always because for me, it's like my, my head becoming more important than the balance between my head and heart.
And this is to me is just, it's not passing the sniff test. Yeah. It's not because like, okay, we're going to go do this thing that has these other implications. And now we're going to start setting this thing. It is that classic energy where I can get into my head about stuff. get into my problem and then I try to analyze and dissect my way through my problems.
relate to that ever gonna work. You know, does that that make sense to you all? Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, I find that it's funny you bring that up because that's something I've been noticing the last couple of weeks or so is how when faced with a certain, ⁓ say, challenge in life or an issue, you know, and it's everyday life type things, ⁓ say earning a living or ⁓ expenditures or ⁓
maintenance around the house. mean, all kinds of, you know, basic living experiences. I noticed how I go through this intellectual rights and wrongs, start thinking my way out of something. And ⁓ it's almost like an old way of approaching a situation, like kind of assuming the worst in the situation, and then trying to outthink it instead of just
attack it like another not really attack isn't really the right word, but just make the phone call, just get the facts. And I had something real simple come up about. ⁓ In fact, it's a gig that's coming up in in a month or so. And I was wondering, you know, ⁓ whether it would be a good one for me, or is that one to pass on because another another group has booked the gig. And it was so funny because
All I had to do and I did, I just called and talked to the guy that I work with in that area, got the facts and now I can make my decision. Right. Anytime rather than trying to think about how to maneuver this and maneuver that and outthink this and that kind of thing. Anytime I, I try to decide something based on fear. I always end up in the same place I started.
And what's worse is that I always dig myself into a hole deeper. And before I know it, I can't stop. There's so much momentum I put into things where I think I'm trying to come up with an answer. I think I'm trying to fix something. There's the operative word. I'm trying to fix it, right? That I end up creating more problems than the initial thing because one leads to the other. Right. And so
that energy of, you know, I end up contributing to the issue in the first place, even though I have this high minded, what is the road, the road to hell is paved with good intention. You know, it's like having these good intentions, but instead of going right back to balance, going right back to, let me make sure I just take care of myself. Let me help make sure I take, assist my neighbor and my community and just
come back to that simplicity. No, I want to make a big thing out of it. I want to go fight this or fight that. And what that does is it just, am I part of the solution or my part of the pollution? I don't realize that I'm becoming part of the pollution. I'm actually contributing to the very thing of it that I get into. And now you were talking about
in the green room earlier, we were just talking about the energy around and how it's easy to just fall into stuff and I need to know when to not get involved in it and you were sharing a story about you just shared some simple wisdom with someone and it shifted them but then they wanted to keep going and you were saying, well I'm paraphrasing here, but you were just like, okay, I'm gonna stop here, that's enough.
Well, yeah, because I recognize, especially in this realm of spirituality and how we share with one another, especially the three of us and other people we know, too, that are close into understanding how we like you guys out there is that ⁓ not everyone's going to resonate with what we're saying and not everyone's going to resonate with the energy. Now, the thing that's really cool, I think about the three of us in this realm is that, you know, we are different people with different energies. So we are attracting the people that want to listen and know what we have to say.
But then there's a lot of people out there that maybe don't want to resonate with this. And I think that comes down to this story and the truth behind it. That's what I really, that's why I kind of want to go to a little bit is, you know, this is the truth that's coming out that I think you mentioned, Tiger, this has been happening for quite a while. It's been happening for years. This is just, just happens to be just, you know, the latest rendition that they're doing, but they've been doing that for years and putting stuff in the sky and all, mean, and it all.
not to get in the weeds with it, but basically, you when a volcano erupts, you know, it throws all this sulfur, you know, up in there and it actually covers the sky and blocks the sunlight and it cools it down. But, you know, it's this crazy thing that a lot of people die because of the sulfur, you know, the sulfur. So now they're trying not to use that. don't want to, I'm not trying to say anybody's polluting anybody.
It's like there, I'm opening the door to so many things that I don't really understand. And there's so many moving parts. It's impossible for my little computer to calculate all this stuff. When in reality, I need the sun. You know, they talk about when you have all that, ⁓ less sun, people are more prone to start getting into depression and then fights begin.
wars, all kinds of stuff, vitamin D for your immune system, kinds of stuff, diseases, all kinds of stuff. Now, mean, I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to be this person who's against it. I'm just saying that there is a law of unintended consequences. And I go there, I go there every time I try to solve my problems with my intellect. Only the intellect is a powerful tool.
And I need it. is amazing. However, if I'm not coming back to that energy of balance, the heart, the head, the hands, I E feel, think, act, and I'm just up here in my head in the hamster wheel, I'm going to end up back where I started, but worse because I've put up all this energy and momentum into the problem.
That's the thing. I think I'm fixing it, but I'm actually putting energy into the problem rather than coming back home to what it's about. And to me, that's going back home to your point, Tom, that you shared. It all comes back down. What is the spiritual component? How am I going to navigate knowing that this stuff is happening? Well, I have a voice and I have a vote. However, for my daily life, I need to make sure that I'm involved in the source of.
what I'm about. I need to be a part of the solutions all the time to get back to what I'm about. Every single thing that I'm involved in, whether it's my work, whether it's the family, whether it's my body, everything is helping me get back to the source of what I need to be involved in. If I'm not working with it like that, then I am working against the nature of gravity.
Yeah, so there's a couple of things that came to mind about this story for myself. And one is quite interesting because if you're listening out there and you're aware of like, you know, how people talk about the spiritual stuff and there's all kinds of realms, you know, the old metaphysical and the ghosts and the medium ship and and there's one called chemtrails. And I've heard about this for years. And, you know, and some of my friends that really believe in this and which, you know,
I didn't know if I believed or not, but at one point after hearing this story and really feeling in my essence, because that's one thing I want to really mention too, is whenever you hear a story out there, how does it resonate with you? Because that's going to be like, like you're saying, coming back to yourself and your pivot. And does that, does that resonate or does that not resonate? And then finding out the facts of why do I feel that way? So that's one really powerful way that you can work with any story out there in the world.
And that's what we're trying to, you know, to share in these. so when I heard this story, there was some click in me about not too long after reading it that I said, holy crap, the chemtrails might be real. Yeah. What I relate to is it. ⁓ there's there's some truth there. Right. There's some activities that I'm not aware of because it's not something that particularly interested me or I felt worried about, know, or thought thought much about.
So I think it's great to hear about this and go, ⁓ that's what some of my friends have been talking about, or they feel there's something off. And you know, even in those situations when like I was going to talk about motives, you know, I feel there's something going on here. What are the motives of these people? Because they're telling you a good, they've got a good intellectual con going on or story.
maybe it isn't a calm, but it's, they've got us, you know, they can, when you get up in your intellect, you can really fool yourself. And you can really fool other people if you get them to stay up in their heads and just use just that. But if I balance that with my feelings, I've often noticed with my sensitive friends, no matter, especially ⁓ people close to me, like no matter what I say, as logical as I made it try to sound,
If they didn't feel right, they knew it didn't feel right. And they just stuck with that. You know, they stuck with that feeling. Yeah. And they were right. I mean, it's, well, it's interesting you say that because I wrote down that the ego, their intellect was wanting to invent. want to invest in their intellect for the outcomes. So these, these people and the scientists, they're just in their heads. So they're how, you know, Hey, let's do the next la la la thing. Right? You bet.
And lot of prestige and all that in the glory trip of getting off into these. But if they were to come into their, if they were to come into their heart, would they still be wanting to make the same choices? Yeah, I, yeah. I mean, the, one thing that I was really bouncing off what you're saying is that if I hear something, whether it's a story or whether I'm just regrouping with a family member or whatever it is, and I'm bouncing that off of
what I resonate with and what my true feelings are. This is why it's so important to be cleansed, right? That's that term. Many of you may have heard that term, but that term be cleansed. It's like just be in the now. Don't be out in Pluto or way back there. Just be here, know? Be in this moment. That's part of being cleansed. It's also being open and relaxed, right? Being at peace. But when I'm cleansed,
And something like startles me or, or comes up or I feel it. I need to not judge it. Right. And that's what I hear you saying. If I start judging someone, somebody tells me something rather than saying, Ooh, there's something there. I need to go get the facts on that. Otherwise I'll jump right into.
the ideas and now here comes all the big fairy tales in my own head and I'm picking stuff up out there. So it really is your spot on when I feel it, I need to not judge it. I need to go, okay, there's something there. Let me go get the facts. You know, let me get the what, when, where, why, and who's getting something out of it. Those little facts helped me discern
whether this is my business or not, and what do I need to do about it? And the fact that if you say, Dave, this has been going on for a long time. So that shows me where we're at energetically and collectively that at this moment in time, this is out in the, mean, was, it's you know, it's news rep, it's reported. There are people commenting on it. Like there's Dr. John Campbell that we follow in Europe and in England, and he did a big video on it and he's got
lots and lots of followers. So the fact that it's out as a truth and people are exploring it, that to me is a big indication of where we're at energetically with truths. Right. I agree. Yep. Well, about that. Thank you for this first part. We're to take a little break and we'll be back in a minute.
Okay, well, we're back and Tommy ready to share another story with us. Well, the story that struck me this week that I thought we could look at the energy behind it is the ⁓ recent, very recent Canadian election for that that have gone on for Prime Minister. And I guess a couple of the key points is that most people are probably aware that the the liberal side always get confused with that because in Australia, yeah, liberal was conservative.
and labor was the liberal. So ⁓ in Canada, liberal means what we think of it in the United States as being not so conservative, more like Democrat or progressive or on the side of ⁓ the socialist side of things. ⁓ conservative is conservative. anyway, ⁓
People are surprised because the ⁓ liberal candidate won and he's the fellow Carney who replaced Trudeau when Trudeau resigned. And ⁓ one of the things that struck me was how people seem to be so surprised by this. And I want to share that. ⁓
I felt that he was going to get elected pretty much ⁓ from the start, know, or from way back. And I just want to say that because my preference is different than him being elected intellectually. You know, you might say my preference, although, you know, I'm always happy with outcomes, because I know that in the big picture, we need people need to move through things. And, you know, I'm not real negative on it. ⁓
So I felt that energy was moving that way in Canada. This is what I want to share about. Not so much the election itself. And comments were made in the media that reinforced it. know, that, for example, even Trump said, well, maybe we're better off dealing with the guy that, I'm paraphrasing, that is ⁓ more the liberal candidate rather than the conservative candidate out of Canada, you know, as he's doing his back and forth.
And for some reason that just like, ⁓ that's interesting that he said it like it's Trump says a lot of things. Not everything strikes me that just I went, ⁓ my little sensitivity perked up, you know. And, ⁓ so now, ⁓ this fellow's been, ⁓ Carney's been elected and everybody's intellectually looking for reasons why it happened.
And this is ties into what you're talking about. And yet, and one of the reasons that they say is because Trump tweeted out, you know, this long tweet about, Hey, you're better off being the 51st state. And which I always chuckle over because nobody who really believes that Canada would ever become the 51st state. mean, like, I've never thought that. So we look, what I noticed I want to share is like, we look for reasons we intellectually look
for reasons for things without any data to back them up. So another way of saying that is we look in our intellect and we dream up stuff that fits our ideology or our concepts without just getting the facts. So let's do a survey. Let's find out if that tweet did all the Canadians listen to that tweet and how many of them voted because of the tweet, you know, or what were the key factors, you know, so
That's really what I wanted to kind of focus on in that not in a sense, ⁓ trying to brag or big note myself about, as we'd say in Australia that, you know, well, I picked that up, you know, spiritually, but I did. I mean, it wasn't a surprise to me. And I wonder ⁓ why we continue. And I guess ⁓ I accept that people will just
act surprised, be surprised when really did they, you know, I would say it's not, it's easy not to be so surprised if I just feel what's going on. If I tune into my sensitivity and I may not have all the facts, but I need that part too, you know, otherwise you just said it earlier that you can get caught in this whole mental gymnastics things of one reason over another reason. And it just follows and follows and follows.
Yeah, this is when I heard this story, and we were gonna do it. I did going back to your point about how did I feel about that initially. And so there was something about this for me, like I thought, ⁓ something there for like, what happened? You know? So that caused me then to say, okay, let me dive in here a little bit, and go get the facts and not just
judge it on its face, right? Because everybody's, you there's the headline and then there's the story, right? ⁓ So everybody wants to catch it with the headline and get everybody worked up about emotions and all this kind of stuff, which is counterproductive to what I've come to do. It's getting involved in people's headlines is counterproductive to me.
being of service to people. It's, have to be aware of it, right? Can't stick my head in the sand, but I, I need to go and get the facts when I, when I moved to do it. So some of the things that stood out to me here was the need. There's no doubt in my feelings that change is there and change is coming. That's one of the things. And, people forgot that, you know, the,
the way they have their system, there is a tremendous, there's just a very slight difference. I mean, there's, there's almost, they're almost the same amount of people there on their, in their parliament. So it's a very, it's a slim margin that they have. Yeah. They call it a minority government and minority government, they're still in charge. ⁓ Point being is that
There is not going to be a whole lot of dynamic movement there to get something done. that means that there's just going to be this incremental and they're going to bite it, fight it out and stuff. And so if, if there's any challenge that's going to happen over there, it's going to really amp everything up because there's this gridlock between the government. And so I'm
I'm someone who's always going to be give a little bit more power to the people type guy, right? Cause even if you screw it up, at least it's your screw up and it's not someone else's screw up kind of thing. Right. But we still need to have some rules and regulations so we can get along with each other. But to me, this is, there is this must be this overall need to maintain some energy. Like when things don't change fully, let's say I have need for a change.
And I'm doing everything right, but it seems like God, I'm slugging it out and everything keeps going back to the way it was to me. That tells me, okay, I'm going to move forward, but I need to respect the process here. There's something going on in my life. There's something going on in my energy that I need to respect the steps, right? I'm not allowing the steps to fully get there so I can meet the timing just right.
And that's the other word I had for this when I picked it up. There's something about the timing here that that's, that's going to show up with, ⁓ Canada, which is just an absolutely beautiful country and, great people. They, there's just something there that there's definitely change a foot. There's definitely something going on when I tune into it. There's definitely something going on there. It's about the timing now. Right. There's this, there's this momentum there that it has built.
but now the momentum is gonna be incremental. So there's something about the timing there and change that's happening. So I'll take that, I'll take that baton from you and the timing baton, because I wanna go into a little different part about souls and right timing. So this gentleman who won, and I know nothing about this except for what you said, Tom, because I don't follow any kind of stuff like that, politics and other countries, whatever, but.
It's interesting because of what came up to me immediately was how souls were in right timing. And oftentimes in our journeys and now I'll relate a story in a minute about this, but how situations and people in different, different positions may not be who we prefer, may not be who we desire, but these souls are in the right timing to be where they're at. So I was just talking with a friend earlier and
talking about some dynamics with family and which we all go through, we all have ups and downs with people. And why is this happening? And why is this person acting out that way in this way? And I just said something of the fact that, you know, really boils, there's a spiritual aspect to this, that it boils down sometimes to the fact that they are just there for our ultimate healing. And this person was kind of like, well, you know, like something she's probably never heard before. So it's just interesting to think about even as
political figures and presidents and kings and whatever, know, whoever's up on the top echelons of different places, CEOs, these people are put in there for the right timing because they're the right souls for that moment. And so that's where I really wanted to go with the timing aspect. so, I like again, back to being practical with it, that's how I look at it from my own life. Like who's around me? What challenges am I having?
Who do I desire to be with me or maybe not? And then how do I work with that for my ultimate healing and for what I've come to do? Cause everybody has spiritual backing. Everybody has four spiritual gifts. They have a purpose that they've come in to work with. Everybody has that. So I agree with you a hundred percent. It's amazing how I can forget that because I'll get it locked into my way of doing things rather than rising to the bigger picture.
so that I can work with what's there, right? Otherwise, all I'm gonna do is waste time, right? ⁓ I'm not trying to say I'm some kind of pacifist or something like that. mean, I'm ready to be clear about our boundaries and stuff like that, so don't get me wrong, but it's amazing how much time I can waste by getting involved.
And all these moral issues rather than just saying, okay, well, what's there? What's the, what's the energy? What's the need? How do I move forward? Otherwise it's exactly what you're saying. It's like, God, I, I, I'm not even willing to go look at something else so I can get back into my own energy to get back into my own momentum. I'm so caught up with the thing out there. I've blown all this great timing, this L energy. And then I wonder why here's the other part, right?
I wonder why I'm not manifesting exactly what I want or it comes out half baked because I'm spending energy over here and over there and my thoughts aren't consolidated. So of course there's no true call out to the universe to say this is what I need and want and I'm going to be consistent about it. I'm so caught up in everybody else's glory trip that now I'm involved in the soup.
Right, just trying to tread water. But the so the other thing I want to just add to that before we move on is I want to talk about the difference between the sheep and the shepherd. You know, and that no matter what, I always need to come back home to remember I'm in training to be a shepherd. Right. You're in training to be a shepherd. I'm actually a border collie.
I heard people, that's beside the point. Shepherd sheep dogs. just an energetic shepherd. That's what I'm trying to say is, is that, you know, there was a time where I just blindly followed, you know, and that's the kind of the symbol of the sheep, right? The gentleness, but yet also they need that shepherd to kind of guide. Right. So all of this is training me to be a better shepherd for myself.
from my own life. Otherwise I'm going to be caught with the masses, caught with the group and at the mercy of the tribe, right? Afraid to step out, afraid to move forward because of the security that comes with the tribe, with the group. And there's something about this that is helping to germinate in that starting with the Canadian energy. There's something powerful that's starting to germinate there.
And it's to me, I pick up that feeling of the shepherd, that that being able to be guide and help people step by step. there's something there about that. Without that understanding, I become vulnerable in these tight knit groups where I'm just going along to get along. Right. I'm just going along to get along. And what that does is it breeds this tremendous insecurity in me, because if I don't have my group.
If I don't have that thing, now I feel insecure. Now I'm going to move by fear rather than move by freedom. Does that make sense? That's a great analogy. And, ⁓ you know, how I relate to it is, you know, if, ⁓ I'm, I'm at a certain place spiritually when I'm working with people around me. And if I all of sudden go, ⁓ you know, they're not there.
Well, but I am there and I'm right. And I know I'm right, because I've moved through this experiences and I have that experience. And so I know I'm right. And there's this pressure to want to get them to where I am, you know, so what strikes me is that ⁓ there's a need for some you were sharing in the green room about, you know, this is not just Canada, there's a sign about the world here. And what
what comes to me in the positive way of looking at this rather than get caught up in that, that's not my preferred outcome, know, kind of a thing ⁓ is that there needs to be some things clarified for people who are on that side of politics to pull things even more forward. And I think where we get surprised, you might say is that
Yeah, I was I was tuning into there's going to be change in Canada, you know, that I was feeling that happening too. And then it kind of happened in a way that I didn't. Well, I wasn't. I did expect it. I said that earlier. I was like, well, I kind of feel the energy moving that way. But I also feel this change. So intellectually, it seems incongruent. The sort of what happened doesn't seem like the same with the change that I'm picking up on.
So what I really hear you saying bottom line is that, you know, cliche, working with the bigger picture. Okay, what you both have shared is that, okay, that's what I meant to work with. This is this is who I meant to be around right now. This is the areas I have to take a look at in myself, or I wouldn't find it reflected in my environment. So let's stay positive, loving, and move from my feelings. Or you know what?
or get angry, pissed off and heal. That's one of ways to heal too. You don't have to go to the positive and the joy and the love. Toxic positivity. We actually, and I was working with my healer in Melbourne, Australia last night and she was talking about when anger comes in, that is the most transformative feeling we have. Because anger, you can just get angry and you can just let it move through your body and you can be pissed and you can stimulate everything. Yeah. So I love it. You brought up joy and love dear, but
But I think there's also a place for anger. So whatever moves you listeners to to the next area of your healing, it's it's, powerful. And I think it's something to definitely embrace. So that's what I wanted to share about anger and love. So are you ready? You you put respect yourself and that emotions are there to be experienced. There's nothing wrong with them. It's just let them go. Let's not hang on to them. D all the above. Yeah. Yeah. That's I mean,
My closing on that, since you brought that area up is that everything is a means to an end. Everything can help me. And if I'm denying how I feel, then I'm denying the universe. I'm denying myself. I'm denying people. So if I feeling that frustration, I'm feeling that turns into anger, know, anger. One, one thing about anger is it brings focus.
It brings your whole self into focus, you know? And so there's that, that it can be helpful. I think the, the, the spirit of why people talk about the love and the patience and all that kind of stuff is because it's not the love and the patience. It's where I want to get to. Right. If I, if I need to let that out, I can let it out, you know, and get it, you know, but where do I want to get to? And I think that's the point. What I hear you saying is that.
All those things are tools and techniques for me so that I can get back to my true self, get back on my timing, get back into my rhythm. That's the net result. That's what I really want. And the more I can be in that now, now I'm talking about moving from high to high in my life. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. And also, ⁓ this is part of what you might hear out there called spiritual bypassing.
is going to that, you know, just accessing it's all love, it's all peaceful, it's all joy when it's like, no, it's it's freaking not. Yeah. There's all kinds of emotions and all kinds of things to work through and support yourself as you heal for you know, moving heal forward, but denial, Yeah. If they're not really willing to feel what they feel and express it, it's a form of denial. They are they're leaving themselves out.
And that's part of the spiritual bypass that a lot of people talk about when, you know, leaders or other people out in the communities of spirituality and stuff will just talk about bringing the light and doing it. You know, so but it's yeah, that's just another thing. you know, and it always strikes me too, is that in that spiritual bypassing, it's like trying to heal these people and change them when really
It's it's great to just acknowledge, no, I'm not happy with that. You've stepped on my toe that hurts, right? You've encroached on my boundaries or you're too close to me back off. And then so let's get back to a balance where we can live and let live and move through it that way. And it's an it's an alarm. Like, okay, I got pissed off when I was talking to Bob or Sally, why did I do that?
It gives me, it's like, well, wait a minute, there's something going on there. Cause if it was all roses and rainbows, I wouldn't. Unicorn farts. Yeah. wouldn't, I wouldn't be, you know, like what's that? What's that? Oh, it's also great. But if there is something there, then I go, oh, okay. I felt that. What is that? It gives me a chance to really operate it instead of trying to ignore that. And I'm going to stay.
I'm gonna only think I'm gonna just be holy and then I'll be above it all that's an intellectual state That's just in your head all the time if you pass on in that state You're gonna be stuck in a limbo land kind of thing So I relate to what you're talking about a lot on that It's so easy to get pulled into this big trip in my head Rather than just what do I feel? Okay, what do I want to do about that? It's that simple
Yeah. And I think in that situation, like there's unresolved energy, there's unresolved concepts. There's, know what? We're going to have to hit it head to head to move through ⁓ that energy and for the next wave of evolution, you know, with how we, isn't it amazing how we were talking about one simple story and all this came out. That's what we're talking about. How
Everything is a means to an ass what Tom was bringing about that message. It's like this is what it's about. This is about taking us someplace taking the team someplace. That's what this is about. Okay, we have one more inspirational story. Let's first going to take a quick break.
All right, we're going to go to UK again. Believe it or not, the story I got this week was from another person in the UK. So we're going to go over to England. And there's a 90 year old English woman who owns an animal rescue sanctuary. She has within her life reportedly rescued over 10,000 animals from abuse and abandonment. That's no, that's not small numbers. 10,000.
over 10,000. She's dedicated 54 years to running what what is called the Barbie keel animal sanctuary in Sussex, UK. She started in 1970 when a British Army soldier was stationed in North Ireland asked her to watch his dog while deployed. And the dog never went back to him stayed with her. And since then she's looked after believe it or not 600 animals 160 cats 16 pigs eight dogs six horses 100 chickens 80 plus rabbits.
And she actually those rabbits. Yeah, they multiply a lot. Yeah. She's rehomed many of the animals, but she's also kept some on the same as a 12 acre sanctuary. The sanctuary is ran entirely on donations. And one thing I thought was interesting, she had a nice quote of the end said, I don't deal with the big animals anymore. But I still get up every morning to feed all the cats and see them all. It's a good life. Beautiful. I was inspired. What inspired you, Tom?
Want to go buy some animals? We have no animals. Been there, done it. Pass. I hear your heart pass. I can tell you immediately what comes to me that the thing besides the heartwarming story of it is die with your boots on. I want to die. 90. I want to die with my boots on, meaning I want to, I want to be of service. I want to be involved. I want to.
do what I've come to do. I want to do what I love, you know, and, and, and if I'm not doing what I love, I want to love what I'm doing, you know? And to me, that's what's so inspirational about these kinds of stories. It's like, what, what's my excuse? All right. Here's this lady, 90 some years old doing it every day. Like when I don't want to go and just resolve any issue I've got, or, you know,
be of service or hop out of bed and go do my thing. It's like, well, who, what game am I playing? This is, this is so beautiful. that's, that's really my, to me, it's like, die with my boots on, go get it. Just start being of service and one little gesture. This lady is one little gesture of help flourished into this beautiful thing of helping people and, ⁓ you know, rehousing these, ⁓
animals with people, you know, it's a tremendous, one of those things that you never know, ⁓ the effect that you can have because it's that whole thing where the dominoes are going down and it's helping other people and all this kind of thing. So it's, it's such a great story. And, ⁓ the fact that, you know, she's 90 and that adds to the story, right. But really to me, it's just that.
beautiful energy of go do it, let it expand, keep moving, keep moving. That's what I get inspired with. What you Tom? That she- you're closer to her age.
You don't look at yeah, you don't you look at you don't look I'd have never guessed you don't look 90. Because he's not but I don't look at He's the closest. So not to throw you off or anything but no, you know what struck me about the story was that as you said, she not only took care of the animals she found ways to move them back out into society. Right. And
what resonates with me is and what strikes me about it is that she's doing the full service, you know, she's doing the 100%. It's not just, I'm keeping all these animals and I love them and I'm going to keep them around me and in a possessive way, she's moving the energy and she's allowing the healing to take place at somebody's house, some little kid has a rabbit or some older person has a cat now, and whatever it is. So,
then the donations, you know, click in. here she is. 90 doesn't have to worry about a thing probably because she's except for the animals, whether they've been fed or not. And, you know, she's probably got everything she needs by finding that service. It's a simple service. It's not rocket science. And then communicating, organizing herself, communicating and following through. Yeah. And for myself, I would say the keyword is fulfillment. Yeah.
So it's about finding things in our life that fulfill our heart at each moment along the way. So again, like, you know, the story is when she began, she just started with one animal just was really being nice and helping out, you know, a soldier who was, you know, on, on duty somewhere else. And then it just inspired that within her. And so, you know, time, and then it got grew and it grew and it grew and not stopping always being of service. I hear this from several people like, you know, I can't wait to retire. What's retirement?
Like there's no retirement. just you go to the end as long as you're doing something of you know, a fulfillment and really feeling it within yourself. And I guess for her, you know that she was very it's very wonderful to have something that you have done from you know, this year to that year along this, you know, the stream. But many of us have different things we do and finding different fulfillments. And so I think that's really important too is recognizing that
You know, an inspirational story like this can be so profound for everyone, no matter what your path looks like. Cause I know for myself that, you know, I'm going to be 57 soon and you know, move it back into a new job that I'd never done before and learned a whole new, you know, new way of feeling fulfilled so it can happen for everyone. I, I, the, attitude is altitude. You know, it's, I need to make sure that I'm
moving up there that all that love for doing something and being of service. Sometimes there's things that I do because I want to do them. And sometimes there's things because I need to do them. And they're not always pleasant. the moment I'm tuned into that larger picture of who I am and what I've come to do, I'm here to do this part. ⁓
It's like the energy lifts and I can enjoy it more, even if it's a thing that I don't like doing. And, ⁓ I've, I've said this before, but, ⁓ you know, growing up around this kind of work and, know, I've, I've had the benefit now of doing a little bit of everything that jack of all trades. And I've said to people, and I genuinely mean it. One of the.
the more fulfilling things to do when I'm doing physical things on getting things ready for a retreat or something is I love going in there and cleaning the toilets. It sounds silly, but it's immediate gratification because when they're clean, they're clean immediately, right? They're easy, but it's also this symbolic for me. It's like, I'm cleaning out that crap. You know, all it's just, all it's going to be clean.
the needs are going to be met. ⁓ And my point for being is that I used to just think that was the worst job. It was just the worst job to have. I think pretty much everybody does it first. Yeah. Yeah. then, but now that I've gotten into it, it's like, I'm not saying I can't wait to go jump in the toilet water or something like that. I'm just saying that it's that attitude of altitude with altitude, you know, it's like, okay, I'm
I'm starting to see it differently and this this lady has just been consistent. She's obviously organized, right? That's the other part to doing what you love. I have to be organized. I was going to make that point because otherwise people will say, well, I'm doing what I love, but I'm not earning any money. I'm not, know, I'm all this kind of stuff. Well, I have to be organized. I have to be able to make it a service so that people want to invest in it.
And now whether that's a donation in this case for her or whatever it is, to all that, regardless, there is an organization there and she's able to channel that energy into what she wants to do. So, ⁓ those two things are really what stands out to me is that it's, it's my attitude about things and how I really view them. And is it part of a bigger picture? Can I make it?
part of the bigger picture. And then the second thing is I really do need to be organized if I'm going to have some continuity. Well, something that struck me was that the key word for May 2025 is vital. And one of the things we were sharing about in a recent episode that we put on for enthusiastically spiritual was that fulfillment is vital to my experience and my evolution. And I wanted to share that because
even if I'm involved in daily activities to say earn a living or, you know, earn my daily bread, so to speak, or tasks that aren't so I'm not that enthusiastic about as long as I've got something that gives me fulfillment, you know, I'm on the right track. And that's I guess, ⁓ the other thing is, that, you know,
If I do things from a religious perspective, it's going to be because the suffering is all I'm suffering cleaning the toilet and that kind of thing. But the truth is, is that there's fulfillment there. If I tune into the bigger picture, my bigger purpose and the spirit of love and being of service. So the bigger picture is we started with the sun. We went to people in high places and we ended with the animals. So what are the what's the ⁓ collective
commonality of this, the sharing today, guys. Well, I think for me, the the some of the overriding energy has to do with being of service, staying in my flow, and being organized to maintain that all. Otherwise, I have a tendency on the flip side of that.
is I have this tendency to get involved in things that I don't need to be involved in and ultimately get involved in other people's drama and just get pulled off. I'll blow my timing. So that's the things that start to stand out to me on this whole thing. Yeah, and for myself, I would say it's really about getting facts and really feeling into
situations that are going on on the planet? And how do I feel about that? And then just take a look at that. think for me, it's trusting my feelings at inner knowing that what I pick up about what's happening in my environment, being open minded to the positive aspects of it, you know, how can I work with this? What's my opportunity here? Those simple questions, how can I be of service? And then having a belief and a trust in myself that
You know, as long as I'm moving forward, I'm going to do the right thing. I'm going to be okay. And overall, we're going to make it through almost like that feeling of being just like slicing right through the energy to move forward to where I want to go. We're going to make it. We all make it. all going to make it. Thank you for listening or and watching another episode of spiritual perspective, discerning news. We appreciate each and every one of you.
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