Consciousness Shifting: The Power of Shadow Work with Steven Twohig

Inner work and the concept of shadow is the conversation this episode with author Steven Twohig Sr. about his book 'Turning Within: Reclaiming Your Soul from Shadow'. They discuss the Inner work and the concept of shadow. Steven shares his journey and the transformation he experienced while writing the book. 

They also explore the current shift in consciousness and the significance of turning within. The book offers a process for recognizing, allowing, investigating, and nurturing the shadow aspects within ourselves. It encourages readers to take responsibility for their reality and cultivate their own sacred space. 

In this conversation, Steven Twohig Sr and TNT SpiritWorks discuss the concept of shadow work and the importance of embracing all aspects of ourselves. They explore the idea that our reality is shaped by our beliefs and the meaning we assign to events. They also touch on the role of shame in our lives and how it can be transformed through self-love and acceptance. Steven shares his vision for the future, where he hopes to expand the reach of his work and help more people unlock their innate genius.

Takeaways

• Inner work and shadow exploration are essential for personal growth and transformation.
• The current shift in consciousness is leading people to turn within and explore their shadow aspects.
• Turning within means recognizing, allowing, investigating, and nurturing the deeper experiences that come from within ourselves.
• By doing the inner work, we can change our external reality and create a more grounded and authentic life.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction and Reflection on Previous Episode
• 3:23 The Book: 'Turning Within: Reclaiming Your Soul from Shadow'
• 8:05 The Current Shift in Consciousness
• 10:25 Turning Within: Recognizing, Allowing, Investigating, and Nurturing
• 12:42 Creating a Grounded and Authentic Life
• 19:46 Embracing the Shadows: The Power of Shadow Work
• 25:23 Transforming Shame through Self-Love and Acceptance
• 29:51 Unlocking Your Innate Genius: Steven's Vision for the Future

Transcript

TNT SpiritWorks (00:00)
So one thing that lights me up inside is diving into inner work. And I like to focus on that area of my life at the right timing. So this episode is really cool because it's the right timing to dive into some shadow areas with a previous guest of mine, which excites me too. I love when people come back and share where we've been since the last time I saw you and what's going on. So my guest today is Stephen Tuig. So welcome Stephen.

Steven Twohig Sr (00:26)
Thanks, it's good to be back.

TNT SpiritWorks (00:28)
Man, I looked up and it was August 9th, 2022 when you came on season two, episode 51.

Steven Twohig Sr (00:34)
the day before my birthday. Yes, I remember that now. Yes.

TNT SpiritWorks (00:36)
Whoa, cool.

So in looking back, Steven, at that episode, it was kicking because of course we shared a lot about, you know, who you are, what you do, your shadow work, your amazing, you know, skill sets. And you also led me through an amazing healing. Remember that? Yeah, that was profound. And I will definitely link that episode down below for all of you guys. So if you want to go back and go, what is she talking about? It is worth going back and going, what's Steven talking about?

Steven Twohig Sr (00:55)
Yep. Yep.

Well, it's the structure of it, right? It's one thing for us to talk about. It sells a lot of books, right? But to actually see it, and you went there, like you did, guys say, you know, I didn't do anything. She did all the work. All I did was ask a couple of questions, and she went right where she was needing to go. And that always seems to be the nature of it. So definitely could check that out. I'm just walking next to you. I'm kind of holding the flashlight going, what was that? Well, what is that?

TNT SpiritWorks (01:28)
guide right you're the guide

Holy shit, Teresa, look at that.

Steven Twohig Sr (01:36)
you want to go through there? OK, well, what is that? OK, what do you want to do? You want to go through that door? OK, let's go. And you open up the door, you walk through the door, and then shine the flashlight. Well, what is that? And basically, that's my whole job, is I just hold flashlights for people.

TNT SpiritWorks (01:47)
Yeah.

Well, you hold a very nice and very powerful flashlight there, sir. So I'm glad you're back and I'm looking forward to chatting some more today about shadow and you've got some new things to share. And so it's been two years, almost two years. Well, actually, you know what? This episode we're taping now in June, but it's actually going to be released in August. Wouldn't that be kicking if it was around the same time? It'd be almost two years exactly. So yeah.

Steven Twohig Sr (01:55)
Thank you.

wow.

Don't try to change it in any way shape or form. Just see if it naturally just falls. I bet it falls pretty close. Interesting. Very interesting.

TNT SpiritWorks (02:19)
I absolutely will. Yeah, it'll be it'll probably pretty close to that because this is going to be released in August. So it is August now two years later. And so share what's been going on with you, Steve. And what's it what's the new that's risen up in your life?

Steven Twohig Sr (02:33)
Well, the book is what's really new. I mean, it it's not new. Two years ago, I was still trapped under so much I didn't even know what I didn't know kind of thing. The book that I had two years ago. I didn't even quite understand. I still don't understand it, but two years ago, I was still still trudging the road. I was still stuck. I was stuck in a shadow right around that time. As a matter of fact, I was I had to do a piece of my own work through getting the book out. So the book is the the newest.

We've done two years now, we've done eight more shadow ceremonies. We've had equal amounts of age, which are advanced guide educations. We've trained another 200 guides. We've been busy. We've been busy.

TNT SpiritWorks (03:20)
It sounds like it. Well, and I know for myself, I've recognized by just noticing what's going on out in the world that there's a lot of people who are, I'll say turning within, which is the name of your book. Your book is turning within reclaiming your soul from shadow. So there's a lot of stuff going on right now. So what have you noticed in preparing this book as well as doing the work out in the world that

Who are some of the people that are they different now than they were several years ago? Or what are you noticing in the shadow aspect of people going there?

Steven Twohig Sr (03:51)
Yeah, well there's a lot going on right now. So you have Aubrey Marcus is in the middle of finishing his book on what he calls I think the false self. It's going to be shadow. Mark Gaffney has an excellent book out called it's that's in an audible erotic and the holy that really goes into the false self and there's a lot of really good material out there. Paul Levy's books on with Tico all three books are they read like stereo instructions know that going in like it's.

great bedtime reading kind of thing. You have the holographic universe theory is coming online. What we're understanding from a quantum reality perspective is coming online. There's a lot of things that are really plugging in and shadow work at some level, because the reality is this has a lot of different names, but at the root of it, it's shadow work. That's what we're doing here. It's kind of like you can...

call a room a room, but it all has, it all has, you know, you do, you do body work, you do taping work, you do, this is shadow work and it's, it's been around for eons, but it seems to be an emergence. Now I think Teresa, my, my theory, cause I always created a series of rules in the book. There's a series of four rules. The second rule of shadow work is there are no accidents in shadow work. And we say that.

tongue and cheek because when you come to ceremony, there's not going to be any accidents here. So you all know, let's not have any accidents. Safety first, right? But the deeper piece is we show up how we show up. How we do anything is how we do everything. There's no accidents. And it allows me to start to breathe enchantment back into my life. Now, when I do that, I go, well, the deeper, even the deeper layer is everything happens for a reason and it serves. There are no accidents. There's a reason this is happening the way it's happening. Can, can I allow myself to step outside of it? And when I look at the way that,

the books that are coming out, the way that we're shifting our understanding of reality and consciousness, I think that the velocity of change is sped up. So, you know, people are talking about the amount of violence and the amount of uncontrollables and the amount of, well, the velocity of change is sped up. What used to happen in a hundred years is now happening in 10. What happened in 10 is not happening in a year. What happens in a year is just, it's a geometric speeding up.

I believe that all has purpose and what it's meant to do is it's meant to bring our awareness back to now. It's meant to, I'm going to use a word and I always cringe as I use it to wake us up because I've now got to pay attention to, I'm now driving. If you think about it, most people are driving unconscious. I can't drive my car down this road the way I drove it down that road right back there because the way I, where I'm going now,

It doesn't look anything like where I came from. That's where we're going to the velocity of change is you have, and you start to see the fractal nature of reality. You see AI come online. Wasn't that interesting? That's coming online in this time and this space. It just seems like everything is lining up for a very dramatic shift in the way that we understand who we are and how we operate. That's giving us control back at the central level at the individual node. That's what we are. We're all just a bunch of nodes, right?

But at my level, I am starting to learn that I am the creative force in my reality. I will create my reality the way I create my reality. And it's forcing me to come to the awareness of all these constructs that I lived out of back there that don't work. So I think the trouble that we're seeing is a good sign. I'm not saying we should go out and pick fights with people. That's not what I'm saying at all. Ram Dass said, I don't go looking for trouble. But when I do find it, underneath I'm going to find shadow. And below that, I'm going to find grace.

And so I think it's a good thing. I really do.

TNT SpiritWorks (07:45)
I totally, I totally agree with you. And it seems to me that the more awake people become, of course, that's the freedom, right? So there's the other side that doesn't really want you to embrace freedom, doesn't want you to go there. And so, yeah, that polarity is so strong right now. But I'm with you, Steve. And I 100 % agree that it's the right timing, the synchronicities that are happening, the books, the awarenesses, like you said, AI, everything that's coming full circle and online, so to speak.

It's brilliant. I mean, there's not a better time. So I'm excited. No.

Steven Twohig Sr (08:18)
There are no accidents, right? It's like there are no accidents that all this is happening. COVID, I would consider that. If we consider matrices of birth, much like the birthing process, much like the hero's journey, everything is structurally fractally, what's true here is true here, what's true there is true there. If you look at, we all got put in a timeout, like, you know what I mean? And now we're coming through that timeout, it's like, now what? Now what? We're birthing. Something new is coming online. We know now.

I read, I can't remember where the book was, but they said, one of the challenges we have is that we've lost our herophany. So you think that when, back and back pre modern times, if my dad was a blacksmith, it was a highly good chance that I was going to become a blacksmith. Well, when you unpack what that means from a day to day as a blacksmith that was raised by a blacksmith that was raised by a blacksmith that was raised by.

The breathing that I would breathe, the way that I would look at reality would be through the structure of sacredness that came along with a passing all off. This is the way dad did it. And this is the way we've lost that sacred place. That's what hair funny is, it's a sacred space. So we are forced now to find our own sacred spot to stand in this reality and to cultivate that sacredness. And we're being, I think we're being forced to that. I think we're being forced, many of us, cause I,

I'm that guy, right? I didn't come here because I'm a guru. That's not who I am, right? I'm that guy that's bumped my head up against all this stuff and continues to. You know what I mean? It's like that, it's just time for us to find our sacred spot. And what we're finding is it's right here at the center of it.

TNT SpiritWorks (10:05)
And that's the freedom, right? And you and you have Yeah, and, and you having that big flashlight to go, hey, here's some areas you might want to look at or, or that might be coming up for you. And so

Steven Twohig Sr (10:06)
Yep. Yep. It's.

It's kind of like we're like those we're like those people that have had spent the entire night just working and toiling and We've gone to sleep and now the now it's time to wake up and we don't want to get up Like we just don't we don't we don't want to come back. It's like you're in the middle of a dream You know how when you're in a dream? When you're dreaming and you go to wake up and it's like that dream that was so powerful that you want to go back to sleep to continue to follow through

That whole structure of the way we do that, if you go back in and just everybody just for a moment, just imagine go back to a time when you were waking up, when you had a long night or whatever it is, you were dreaming. And when you were in a dream, that dream was so vivid that you've just wanted to go back to sleep to finish it, but it never finished. We're in that process right now. We're in that waking where we've got to come to the reality that you're driving this, but it's.

It's not a matter of if anymore like the scientists are agreeing. It's all coming the the the the convergence is happening where everybody is now at some level all talking about the same thing and and we're coming to this understanding that you know what your your your God having a human experience and It is a it's an illusion, but it's a very important and vital illusion and and you know I mean, it's like people want to get rid of the ego well if you get rid of the ego and you go to duality well, then

What is all this for then? You're telling me to disengage from this thing that's been created over billions of years it took for us to get here so that we could tell ourselves a story so that consciousness could pop inside and say, my name is Steve. You know what I mean? And I've got something to say, like for consciousness to be able to do that inside a structure where it's all consciousness, but to be in the container in such a way that my consciousness can now think that it's the.

TNT SpiritWorks (11:51)
Yes.

Steven Twohig Sr (12:06)
It's you can just experience the story that it lives in. That took a lot of work to get here. You know what I mean? And to throw all that out by saying, go back to source, I get that. But what about what happens? What is all that for? And I think it's to bring genius through. I think at the end of the day.

TNT SpiritWorks (12:13)
Absolutely.

Yeah, I totally agree with you. Absolutely. And so let's talk a little about your book Turning Within because some of that I have I wrote some things down as I was going through it. Hey, and if you're like watching the YouTube video you saw Stephen just hold the book in front of us.

Steven Twohig Sr (12:35)
That's right. That's right. I've always it's there's something, you know, it's it's it took a while for me to get the book in my hand and to get this book in my hand. I got to tell you guys, it's I think everybody has a book in them. And I think that and I and I think that the hand having this, it just changes me at a level that my my grounding. I still think that I still have my fear that everybody is going to think I'm crazy. But now I can't hide.

TNT SpiritWorks (12:49)
They do, yeah.

Steven Twohig Sr (13:04)
You know what I mean? This is where I'm at. And there's a certain amount of being able to triangulate my presence in this reality. And so if you've got a book in you guys, just it's worth it. I know it doesn't feel like it when you're going through the process, but keep walking and the people will surround you. People will show up right when they need to and just keep moving forward. It's worth it on the other side. Yeah.

TNT SpiritWorks (13:24)
Absolutely, absolutely. So let's talk a little bit about the transformation that the book offers.

Steven Twohig Sr (13:31)
the actual turning within. So the book itself, when you say turning within, for a moment, sit and think what that means. Well, it means I'm going to turn within. No, that's not what that means. The deeper truth is that if you were God having a Teresa experience, that means the experience would be coming from within you. What I've come to understand or come to rely on as a deeper truth is that my reality begins and ends with me. And

There's something coming from within me. There's, there seems to be this deeper, this deeper experience other than the surface of thought. And it's coming from within me. And as I start to plug into that and understand that through my work in shadow and now as we structurally move beyond just the suffering, but you start to notice how the whole structure of this construct, this reality that we're living in, it's all coming from within you. And as I change where I'm at in here,

somehow everything out here is changing as well. Now I'm not by no don't immediately like, well, this guy's fucking crazy. I know. I know, right? Right. But as you do your work, there's just a certain level of grounding that you've and when you what you'll notice is as you get grounded, the people around you now can sense where you're at. And somehow it rubs off on them just like when

TNT SpiritWorks (14:40)
Even really, no.

Steven Twohig Sr (14:57)
somebody comes in the room and they're ticked off and now I'm agitated because they're agitated. Well, that structure of reality goes both ways. And as I deal with tend to my shadow, the songs that are being played inside of me as I walk into a room, because you're sensing a part of me that I can't see and I'm sensing a part of you that I can't see. And we're all that's always going on always and always.

I'm not just here, I'm here and there and all the people listening. Like all together, we are all connected and it's not, that's not woo woo. Like it's very practical. And as I start to do my work, first thing it looks like is I no longer move out of fear. I'm holding my space. And now that I'm holding my space, I'm like, what's coming from within? I'm, I'm assessing, I call it the rain process. Recognize you're in shadow, allow yourself to be where you are. Cause I judge myself and then I beat myself up.

And that's not the right way to go. You can't go that way. You got to stop, allow myself to be here, investigate where it comes from. It's all in the book. And then nurture the need that, that is underlying. That's the deeper root. Cause I'm dealing with what I find is that most people don't design the ideal. Most people just manage circumstances. Most of us and most of the time we are surface dwellers at best and it's by design. But what if we could start to work at those deeper levels and start to clean out all that suffering rooted.

programming that we've been swimming in. That's what turning within is. It's a global experiment to see if we can all together, everybody turn in. You see that volume right there? Yep. Okay. Turn that down. What happens? And if we get enough people that will turn in and find that same knob inside of them and turn that down and we all do it all at the same time, my, I'm like, I'm curious what would happen if we all.

Everybody, everybody lift all at once. Ready? Go. Many hands make light work. I think we hit another structure and we open up another level of understanding just because we've all gone in and done that work. So that's really what the book is designed to do is it's designed to get up and roll everybody. Go look, read the book. It's not meant to be something that will teach you. You're not going to learn anything. There's no learning here. Like, I can't teach you anything.

TNT SpiritWorks (17:16)
You

Steven Twohig Sr (17:17)
I don't know anything about Teresa's life. I've never been in the river of the story called Teresa. I've never been in it. I'm curious about it. I'm excited about it. I am thrilled to be given the blessing to sit by the river with the people that I work with and say, tell me what it feels like to be in that. That's basically what I do, right? But I've never been in the river of the story called Teresa. I've never been, I've only been in my river and my river, bring a flashlight, bring a flashlight and a friend, cause it's scary in there.

I'm assuming it's like that for everybody. And so the goal is for us to come together and sit in that river long enough to where we go, I see now. And it's the unlearning of the things that we were taught that just don't serve us anymore. And through that, we learn, well, if that's true, then that's like that all the way down. Yep, all the way down, all the way down.

TNT SpiritWorks (17:49)
Absolutely.

Wow. And I know, you know, in the beginning of the book you talk about, you kind of dive into, you know, childhood fears, you know, your story with your uncle, which was amazing. And I, I resonated so much with, I'll tell you honestly, the blanket shield. Steven.

Steven Twohig Sr (18:25)
boogie monster the boogie monster

TNT SpiritWorks (18:27)
I had my head under the blanket almost all my life until probably about 10 years ago. Seriously, until I, you know, was able to really clear out some things. Yeah, I had my I was about had a blanket shield up for many decades.

Steven Twohig Sr (18:43)
And we don't even know that we've been doing it. We've been doing it for so long We've gotten so good at doing these things that we've learned to do to survive That have no value in the real world that they and they keep a safe in some level some semblance of The illusion of safety because I don't think that's really safe. I think at the end of the road It's the opposite exact opposite of that. But yes, and it's like that's what that is. It's like I can go in now and go

I see the whole structure of meaning and why I did what I did and what that was about. And then, and here's the deeper piece, Teresa, what if you've been doing that longer than when you were a little girl?

TNT SpiritWorks (19:24)
I'm sure I was.

Steven Twohig Sr (19:25)
Like if that's just a fractal reflection of what you brought in here into this structure. And now I start to sound, I know I start to sound bat shit crazy, but this is the work. Like we do, we'll do age and we'll roll out a carpet and I'll see things happen.

TNT SpiritWorks (19:28)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Steven Twohig Sr (19:46)
I will see things come out of people that's like, there's no way that there's no way that that could have been done other than by some grace that exists beyond anything that we're experiencing here. And I didn't come here. Like I'm not that woo woo guy. You've had this conversation, right? I'm just not that woo woo guy, but I've become that guy. And it's just out of a practicality. I just kept following my feet and this is where I ended up and it works.

TNT SpiritWorks (20:02)
Mm -hmm. Yeah.

Well, you know, I think that people that call things woo woo just they that's well, that's their level of consciousness, right? And they just don't understand again, like you and I understand there's nothing wrong with it. It's where they're at. It's their perspective. It's there. It's the label they put on it. But there's nothing woo woo. It's about being practical. It's about understanding the unseen parts of who we are. And it's you. Everyone came in with it, right? Like every person on the planet has that part. So hello, people. But it's

Steven Twohig Sr (20:22)
And there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah.

TNT SpiritWorks (20:42)
Well, I think it's also the way some people play in it, which is okay too, right? Like, you know, yeah, right. Yeah.

Steven Twohig Sr (20:46)
Let's all pretend anyways, like it's all pretend at the end of the day even this at some level that's not quite true like you know what I mean? It's all pretend anyway, so if that's the game they're pretending What makes my pretend anymore for them my reality me and my reality are you cannot separate me from my reality? It's just only I can do that right and and and only that you're not gonna separate them. That's exactly right. Good job God That's exactly what you should be and they're gonna experience the here's the beauty the power of

TNT SpiritWorks (20:54)
Yeah.

Absolutely.

Steven Twohig Sr (21:16)
the book is that it shows you why is it that good people, Christians can have a completely different ideology and they can stand in that belief and for them it's real. Like and they will experience Christ and they will experience how come I can go to Buddhists and I can, how come I can go to Muslims and how come I can go to all these different people and I can plug in with them and I can go show me your truth and they show me this thing and you could see the utter

This is my experience of reality. And they're all, they're all, they're all true. They're all right. Because the first rule is like the first level is the first directive of the mind is that we create meaning. I am addicted to meaning. I have to have meaning. And I've been half to having meaning for so long that I forgot that meaning was the whole point. That's why people talk about purpose.

The experience of meaning, the experience of alive. Joseph Campbell said, I don't think people are looking so much for purpose, but for an experience of being alive. What does that give them? I have meaning. This is what this means. It's real, real. And you see people that cycle into meaning that's suffering rooted, that's absolutely, it's like this, I'm not good enough, you're not gonna love me, if you leave me, you'll die.

I'm gonna get smothered. I'm gonna get abandoned and you break away go in and look at whatever story is plaguing you and it'll break down to one or more of them five sacred fears and They make that a reality and that reality is so suffering rooted that it gives them the experience that it's I'm alive so I Working with a gal who she she she she's in this I'm gonna die here. I'm gonna die here. I'm gonna die here so then she's addicted this experience of

fighting the current, right? Me and a buddy of mine, when we were kids, we used to call this River Rats. We'd jump in the Missouri River. And if anybody's from Sioux City listening, they'll all agree with you. Don't jump in that river. You've got no business jumping in that river. We would jump in the river, and we would coast down. You're from, you know, you've been like, and you know the Missouri River. Well, we would jump in the Missouri River, and then we would go down, and then we would swim back to shore. So we'd dive out, and then we would swim back. And every time,

you swam back, it was a fight for your life. And we would get to shore. And I distinctly, almost practically every time, I would turn to tour. And I would, man, I'm not doing that again. That almost killed me. Man, I got, as I'm walking farther down so I can dive back in again, I'm telling myself, I'm never going to do that again. What was that structure? Well, that structure was that addiction to that experience, right? And then we

TNT SpiritWorks (24:02)
Mm hmm.

Steven Twohig Sr (24:09)
form ways to protect. And then we lie to ourself, I lie to myself first, that's the first rule of shadow work. And then I create the structure of reality. And what does that do? The hero's journey, if I can survive it, maybe I'm enough. Maybe I'm enough. Maybe I'm enough. Maybe I'm enough. Right? And then it just, it cycles. It cycles. It cycles. And being able to pull out of that, the book is about pulling out of the structure of that in the life. Like we're not, I'm not, I'll teach you it. Like I teach you everything I know. It, I don't hold anything back.

TNT SpiritWorks (24:22)
Mm -hmm.

Steven Twohig Sr (24:38)
But it's not about teaching it. It's about, okay, now go out and taste that. is that real? I don't know, but there it is. And everybody keeps finding it. And now take another step and another step. And through reading the book, you're unlocking pieces of yourself that have been there since, I think, before you know who you were.

TNT SpiritWorks (24:55)
Absolutely. And let's talk a little bit about certainty as a key to freedom. So I loved that, Stephen. So.

Steven Twohig Sr (25:03)
The shame piece? yes. It's a complicated piece because I started to study shame because shame is this interesting... If you really go in, everybody plug in, where do you feel shame in your life? First off, let's find a three. So it's like not a 10. I have shame around my whatever. Like, and you think of the thing that you don't want anybody to know. Maybe it's sexuality, maybe it's finances, maybe it's relationships, whatever. We're not looking for the 10.

We want a three. Like I got a crusty pinky toe. Right. And I don't like my pinky toe. I just don't like it. Right. So think of that thing where you have shame that's at a level three and, and, and, and start to ask yourself, well, look how certain you are. It's not just that you think that it's bad. It's that if you tell somebody, they're going to agree with you. Right. It's, it's a certainty. There's a certainty there that it's real. And now I want you for an entertain for a moment that.

TNT SpiritWorks (25:35)
You

Steven Twohig Sr (26:01)
Nothing is that certain like the one thing in our reality that we have is variety There's no way that I can suck this bad this consistently over a period of time and and and what you'll find When you really taste it is it's not just a it's like it's the exact same it never moves It's always deeper than me and and when you really get down into it what you find Teresa's that it's love that somehow I

I violated myself for love of another. Somehow I've taken on a judgment for somebody else so that they will love me so they can prove to them that I am. Like it's all based around this really twisted up, knotted up layer of love. And so underneath every piece of shame, with certainty, I tell you, there's gold. So it's the certainty that you can't suck that I do this talk every Friday, I go in, these people are getting ready to go work with medicine. I go, how many of you here?

Right now, believe you're the worst person in the room. And we'll get, I mean, because we're in the front line, so we'll get anywhere from seven to 10 people will raise their hands. It's like not all of you can be the worst person in the room. And they'll go, that's true. I can't, there's no, and now look how certain you are that you're the worst person in the room. And now look at how often you make that assessment. It's like you're not that important. You're just not that important. Like you're not. And so it's like, it's how I gain. It's a very,

It's a very unsatisfying way to satisfy a need for significance, shame. And it's like, I, and then the structure of our reality, right? We, I then navigate so that that shame never comes to light, that embarrassment, that crusty little pinky toe never comes to light. And when I do that, when I navigate from that, the mind automates all meaning. So I navigate from, don't let that happen. Don't let anybody see that. And so that I don't show that.

So I'm a little bit resistant in that area, right? And then I come out of it, that tells my mind that it works. So then it makes that judgment, that identity even more consistent, more calcified, harder to break free from. It's more of what we call the black hole, right? And on top of that, you can see me leaning in a weird way.

But you're not conscious of that, because it's the part of you that's deeper than the part of you that stands that's seeing that. It's like, look at that shame. And you're then translating that unconscious message through your deep conscious. And that has to go through. And if you've not owned that part of you, you're going to translate it through your shadow. And then shadow boxing starts, or shadow dancing sometimes. It's like now, it's like the Jerry Maguire lie, you complete me.

My shame of not being able to do something sees your shame of needing somebody to take care of to show that you're enough. My crazy somehow spots your, I think this is profound. Somehow my crazy, just the right kind of crazy lines up with just the right kind of crazy for you. And we come together and then I have this feeling of being trapped and you have this feeling of being abandoned. And so I pull away and you chase me in this. And it's like somehow there's around the world.

Majority relationships are operating out of this unconscious. What happens when everybody goes in and and and and right there tend to that You no longer have to live out of that shame Magic, it's exactly right and I think we're gonna see a spark that's gonna be heard around the world I think that like I'm very excited for where we're going and it's happening. Like you said, I'm not the only book There's a lot out there a lot of genius ideas out there because now is the time if if not now then when?

TNT SpiritWorks (29:31)
Magic.

you

Steven Twohig Sr (29:52)
If not you, then who? Right? When will you come this far to go this far? If you're on this, if you're listening to this, you're there are no accidents. You're hearing this for a reason. How much of this can you hear? Can you hear the full message enough to go, let me take another bite? And it doesn't have to be here, but inside of you, like more of that, hmm, what's real? And you come at it from a curious perspective. What's really, what am I really telling myself?

And interesting things start to open up because then the mind goes, Stephen's listening. Let me throw him some more information. And then it watches me to go, is he going to buckle under that? Because I can only take so much ugliness, right? There you go. Yes, that's exactly right. That's right. I got two. I got two. Well, I got one. I got one. I got one. And now here's the thing. So now that go back to the crusty toe, right? Think of that part of you that's like a three.

TNT SpiritWorks (30:32)
Right.

You can only take so many crusty little toes. One, one, that's it. two.

Steven Twohig Sr (30:51)
What if you just allow yourself to, what if you love that part of you? Right now, turn to that thing that you have a three to, if you're listening on this call, right? And are you watching on video, whatever it is, just turn to that part of you, that part of you that's a three and let go right there. Let go of the judgment that you hold that somehow there's something wrong with having a crusty ass pinky toe. That crusty ass pinky toe has a purpose. And the reason my crusty ass pinky toe is a crusty ass pinky toe is because it, I was like, I.

broke my toe and I broke my toe for this reason and that reason and that is sacred and when I can when I can love myself right there I feel this release and when I feel this release imagine if you could do that in a four and a five and a six and a seven and an eight what if you could do that for your tens let's build that muscle so that we can let go of these things that no longer serve us.

TNT SpiritWorks (31:44)
I'm on board. We're on board, Steven. So turning within, reclaiming your soul from shadow. Congratulations, Steven, on an amazing book. I loved it. I'm still reading through it because it's a, you know, like a chapter at a time, like, okay, let me embrace that. Now, what's that? So I'm, but it's brilliant. So I want to congratulate you so much. And I have a final question for you, Steven. So if we met up two years from now,

Steven Twohig Sr (31:46)
you

TNT SpiritWorks (32:12)
in August of 2026. When we meet up, where do you think you'll be at? What do you think you'll be doing?

Steven Twohig Sr (32:15)
when we meet up two years from now.

Two years from now, we will have, we are in the active stages of expanding the structure of this. This isn't just research, this isn't just theory. There's a practical, we came from the carpet, like this came from the carpet. And so there's a practicality to it. Right now what we're doing is we're reaching out. We've worked with psilocybin churches. We've worked with ayahuasca churches. This works in addiction fields. This works with mindfulness. This works with.

Like it works in sales, it works in business development. We're actively looking for ways to share this and to get this technology, this practice, because that's what it is. It's a practice. The more you do it, the better you'll get at it in various ways that we can continue the research to understand. Like this is all just, well, is it everybody touched that? Is that seen? Yep. Okay. Well then let's write that down. Like, you know what I mean? It's a, it's a group effort. So two years from now I'm.

I'm excited and I'm scared to say I'm not sure because the more people, it's out now. Like I can't hide behind, I don't know. I have to give you, this is what I know so far. This is what, and two years from now I may see it completely different, but there's enough people now that can get a hold of it that we get enough hands in the soup. I think that we're gonna see something miraculous. Two years.

I mean, people overestimate what they can do in a year, and they underestimate that what they can do in a decade. So I'd like to have, I'd like to, I'd like to be in another, another 5 facilities. I'd like to have another, I'd like to, in 2 years, I'd like to have another 500 guides that are trained. I'd like to have another 1 ,000 practitioners. And I'd like to have another 50 ,000 people that have read the book and are actively engaging it in their life. That would be my goal. That would be my goal. I want to get, I want my, I want my,

I want my post office box filled with people that have gone through, because there's processes, and these processes are designed to be used over and over. Like, you're going to, you've read the book, you could come, isn't it true, you could go back and read Chapter 1 again, and you're going to get another layer out of the insect. Yeah, so it's, I want to, I want to continue to, and as that post office box, I continue to learn from what people are, as they're unlocking these pieces of themselves, and they're sharing with me what they're getting.

TNT SpiritWorks (34:26)
Absolutely. Yeah.

Steven Twohig Sr (34:40)
It'll allow me to expand in a way that I'm just currently not able to do in a localized area. So I'm real excited about two years from now. There's no telling as long as like especially thank you very much. Like this is the thing without you being here willing to share this for me, which is it's a calling, you know, my, my calling is to unlock and to study the innate genius. That's just, it's right below the human condition. There's this.

genius that's trying to come through and I'm trying I'm having a deeper conversation with that I just couldn't do that without you Teresa so I want to thank you for this opportunity to share what to me is a very It's a very important Process and if you don't do it here, you don't do it with this just it's time It's time to learn how to love yourself more. It's time to learn how to structure your reality in a way that serves you that doesn't

that doesn't hold you back. Tony once, my mentor Tony once said, never believe, never believe a prophecy that doesn't serve you. And I've taken that on and there's a, when you really allow yourself to bite into the truth of that, never allow yourself to buy in to a prophecy that holds you back. And there are a lot of people right now that are just living under a lie and it's time to wake up from the dream you forgot you were having.

TNT SpiritWorks (36:03)
Well, you're so welcome, Steven. I mean, it's an honor because I look at it like this is just a win -win -win for me. Anytime I can bring someone on to share, it's a win for me, a win for them, a win for spirit. So, you know, I honor the fact that you came back and I look forward to connecting again because I have a feeling we will be connecting again.

Steven Twohig Sr (36:20)
I hope so. I look forward to it.

TNT SpiritWorks (36:21)
So share with the listeners how they can connect with you, get your book and then.

Steven Twohig Sr (36:27)
You can get the book anywhere you can get a book. It would be great if you guys called Barnes and Noble and told them to get it. But if not, you can get it at barnesandnoble .com. You can get it at amazon .com. You can get it, I mean, it's in IngramSparks. They did a wide distribution, so it should be everywhere that you can get a book. And if it's not, please ask them to get it. If you go to masteringchange .com, because that's what I'm supporting, I'm supporting your mastering of change, we are going through, this is the age of change. That's where we're at. We went from.

the computer age and the information age and this is the change age. This is the shift age. There's a book out called the shift age. Change has become a constant. So masteringchange .com is my website. You can go to shadowceremony .com. You can go to shadow .guide. You can get me that way. But masteringchange .com is kind of the flagship.

TNT SpiritWorks (37:21)
And I'll have all those links in the show notes. So all you can go there and check it out as well. Like I said, I'll definitely share the link to the first episode so they get a little more background about who you are and that exciting time you led me through that work. So.

Steven Twohig Sr (37:35)
It was amazing because not every, you know, not every, every podcast has a different flavor, but you're, there's an authenticity that comes when you're willing to go there. It tells me, it tells me like, cause sometimes I'll feel that, well, there's something right there that they're working on and I can feel it and I can't, I just, I, now I can, there was a time when I couldn't go there. I had to do a piece of work around it, but, I, I feel it and I sense it and I lean into it. And if they offer, if they give, if they go through the door, they go through the door. If they don't, there's reasons for that too, but.

I knocked on the door and you blew that door open. So go watch that and then if you know what you're getting into, you might want to go watch the podcast before you read the book because the book dives right into it. It's zero to 60 in four seconds.

TNT SpiritWorks (38:08)
I'm sorry.

And that's how I roll, Steve. And I'm like, hells yeah, open that door. Let's go.

Steven Twohig Sr (38:23)
You did. You jumped it. You dove it. It's like you came in, all right, what are we doing? All right, let's do that. Right into the deep end of the pool. And you were back stroking. You did amazing.

TNT SpiritWorks (38:29)
That's right.

So thank you again so much, Stephen, for being on. I really appreciate it.

Steven Twohig Sr (38:37)
Thank you very much. Thank you for listening.

TNT SpiritWorks (38:40)
Absolutely. And thank you all out there in the world for listening into another episode of Enthusiastically Spiritual. Again, everything about Stephen will be in the show notes. You can check them out. And I will suggest that you do because your soul will thank you. And until next week, just remember that life is too short to not be enthusiastic about your unique journey.