Divorce, Death, Loss, Addiction and Tragedies are a few of the deep learning experiences that many of us face, but finding the path to peace, love and hope when life events happen can be very challenging. My guest today has been through many obstacles and through the spiritual part of her life has found ways to heal and keep moving forward.
Her name is Susan Corso and she is the former head of Spiritual and is a metaphysician. She has had a spiritual consulting practice for forty years. An expert on managing the human energy system through work with the chakras, she holds the Truth that all beings have innate, indestructible integrity—from persons to planets. Susan has worked intuitively with creative individuals, couples, families, entrepreneurs, not-for-profits, start-ups, corporations, and Fortune 500 companies.
Susan has written more than thirty books—both fiction and nonfiction. Her metaphysical fiction stretches from romantic, supernatural mystery—The Mex Mysteries, to butch-femme romance—The Boots & Boas Romances, to historical fiction—The Subversive Lovelies. Her spiritual books mine the riches of the deeper meanings of words and everyday life events to bring meaning to the mundane.
More than half a century of life includes plenty of scar tissue, and, for as many rough experiences as she’s had, there have been countless more experiences of joy, laughter, and fulfillment and she is here to share with us today.
Insights to add to your spiritual toolbox from this episode:
1. Death of a child
2. Opening up to the unknown
3. Scar tissue makes the strongest tissue in the body
4. Telling your story
5. Writing to share the meaning of life to touch others
6. Finding the gold nuggets in life
7. Enthusiastic- Finding the God in something
8. Chakras- life force within us
9. Energy leaks
10. Supportive books to access
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Divorce, death, loss, addiction and tragedies are a few of the deep learning experiences that many of us face. But finding the path to peace, love and hope when life events happen can be very challenging. My guest today has been through many obstacles and through the spiritual part of her life. has found ways to heal and keep moving forward. Her name is Susan Corso and she is a former head of spiritual and as a metaphysician. She has had a spiritual consulting practice for 40 years. An expert on managing the human energy system through work with the chakras. She holds the truth that all beings have innate, indestructible, readily indestructible integrity, from persons to planets. Susan has worked intuitively with creative individuals, couples, families, entrepreneurs, not for profits, startups, corporations and fortune 500 companies. Susan has written more than 30 books, both fiction and nonfiction. Her metaphysical fiction stretches from romantic supernatural mystery, the mechs mysteries to Butch femme romance, the Boots and Boas romances to historical fiction, the subversive lovelies, her spiritual books mind the riches of the deeper meanings of words and everyday life events to bring meaning to the mundane. More than half a century of life includes plenty of scar tissue, and for as many rough experiences that she's had. There have been countless more experiences of joy, laughter and fulfillment, and she is here to share with us today. Welcome, Susan. Thank you so very much. It's lovely to be with you, Teresa. Wow, where do we start? Well, I really want to start with metaphysics and you have said that it helped save your life. So I'd like you to share a little bit about that. Feel like I should do a trigger warning to start and say this is kind of a dramatic story. So don't let it surprise you put your seatbelt on. I found metaphysics through tragedy. Actually. I had a son die the day he was born. And it was a complete T in the road for me. I realized that I could make no sense of it. It it doesn't it? It's just out of order when your child does before you like no, that was my response. And I realized that I either could become a very, very bitter woman. And I'd seen examples of that in my own family. So I didn't exactly like where that road led. Or I could start to seek a deeper meaning and the deeper meaning sent me to metaphysics and metaphysics made me understand that I had a choice about how to tell the story. So just as one tiny example, my husband and I at the time named the baby Isaac. Isaac is a beautiful old Hebrew name, and it means she laughed. And the reason we named him Isaac was because we were determined that there would be joy out of that life. We didn't know how we didn't know what that was going to look like. And he and I have remained the closest of friends, although we're no longer married. Because we share that bond. And we were both we both went through that experience. As a result, I ended up through a much longer path than this but let's do it in a sentence of with a doctorate in divinity and have been a minister and medical intuitive and a consultant for a very long time because of that, quote, unquote, bad experience, as I'm fond of saying it is the best worst thing that ever happened to me. So in turn, you've obviously helped people with tragedies also, is that part of your part of what your life's mission is or your service to others? And I think that's part of it. I also think this I think that we all best serve God where our worst scars are. And the reason for that is because once you have scar tissue over some painful learning, it doesn't matter what it is. It can be addiction, it can be loss, it can be anger, it doesn't really matter. But scar tissue is the strongest tissue the body makes. There's a reason for that. Right? If there's a reason that when you break a bone in one place, if you break that same bone again, it's highly unlikely you'll break it in the same place because that tissue is so strong, so one of the things I was determined to do was to tell women that they had no reason to be afraid of childbirth at all. You absolutely know what to do. It is not a pathology. Women have been making babies happen in fields for long before there were IVs believe me and the babies were fine. So okay, you know how to do this. It can be the best physical experience of your life if you let it decide that it will be a good experience that it will be it's like the best orgasm we've ever had. Who doesn't want that right? Exactly so me up. But what I've done as a result is help women certainly first time mothers get over their fear of childbirth. Oh my god, the pain the pain, the pain. Oh, please. Yes, the pain is rotten. It's not forever. Right? There's a there's a you know a light at the end of the tunnel. It's not another train. Usually it's a baby. Usually. It's something you wanted usually. So, okay. There are you know, they're rough patches to every journey. It's just putting them into perspective. And that's what it sounds like which what you're trying to say if you help people put that perspective and like there's a blessing at the end of this tunnel when when it comes out and you know, the next I think that that's actually a really good way to describe my practice anyway. It doesn't really matter what your challenge is. How are you telling the story? And this is how it goes with my writing, right? I mean, here I write books, and I write books. The reason I write the books I write is because I want to write about people like you and me. I want to write about people who live our lives. On a spiritual basis who asked the spiritual questions who say Okay, wait, wait, whoa, whoa, yes, I know this looks bad. What what did it mean? What really happened? What is the significance here? Because human beings you know, Viktor Frankl said this The psychiatrist who was a concentration camp survivor, he said, human beings can live without a lot of things. But one thing we can't live without his meaning. And I think that I'm a storyteller in all my life. Sometimes I write them down and they're called books right? That's lying for a living. That's called fiction. I get to make it up as I go along. Very cool. I like that. And sometimes it's how do you tell a story about something that happened in your life so that it doesn't constantly re wound you? Write and what happens to us is we tell a story. I mean, here's an example Teresa's something simple, right? You go and you give blood at the lab, because you had to have a blood test. Okay, two days later, the lab calls in the lab goes we lost your sample. You have to come back. And you go to yourself, rap, rap, rap, wasted time, this and this. Why can't they prop up right? So you're credibly, you've called your bestie. And you know, moaned about it, but you go back and you'd give the blood. But what happens if you walk through the door at the lab and the woman says to her, Oh, my God, I am so so sorry this happened to you. This is a terrible thing. But I want to tell you something. Something really good came out of this and that is that because we lost your bloods blood sample. What we've done is we've totally revisited our protocol and it will never happen to anyone again because we put a check and balance system in place. So now what are you saying to your bestie in the in the in the car on the way back? Right? You're saying oh my god, you're not going to believe it. I changed their whole system. What happened? The meaning changed. Now that's a relatively benign example. Right? You're inconvenienced. Right, right. Okay. Here's another one. I had a woman come to me many years ago who was a singer, an opera singer. And she had lost the top third of her range. She didn't know why. She'd been to every e and t on the East Coast. And they all said, yeah, it's all in your head lady. Eventually, her doctor heard about me and sent her to see me. She was in her mid 40s. And she was a coloratura soprano. So she sang the leading roles and she was she was booked to sing in opera houses all over Europe that summer, and she was going to have to walk away from her career because the notes just weren't not there. She opened her mouth and nothing. So I looked at her Now mind you, I've been an intuitive since I'm a child. So I'm and I think to myself, Okay, this is completely crazy, but I'm gonna go for it. And again, put your seatbelt on fair warning. I said to her how old were you when you had the abortion? She looked at me why. Never told another soul. Never once 14. I said Uh huh. Were you raised Catholic? Oh, yeah, I was in Catholic school at the time. So I said Are you a Catholic now? She said Oh, no, but that behind a long time ago didn't work for me. You know how they treat women. Blah, blah. They said Uh huh. Except at 14 when you do the conclusions that you did, about your action in this situation. You were still Catholic. She went, um, yeah, I said, Okay, I'm gonna give you two words. I want you to say them out loud to yourself as often as you can. And I would wager that within a week to two weeks you'll be singing again. And she just looked at me like I was out of my tree house. Lady, whatever. So I said okay, teh, absolve, which is Latin, it means I absolve you. It is what a priest would have said to a 14 year old at her age at that time. And she did confess it and had to do a ton of penance, but she never forgave herself or God for letting it happen. So I said to her, you have to absolve yourself. You have to be your own priest and within 10 days, she could sing again. Wow. It had been three years since she'd hit any of those notes. She went on to make her tour through Europe did an amazing job. Okay. That's what retelling a story does. Right? Right. That's why it's so important. To be able to do that. Okay, it looks bad, whatever the it is, right. You know, you miss an exit, you're driving, and you have to go Of course 25 miles out of your way to get to the next exit so you can actually turn around right? Have you not you didn't miss a 47 car pileup on black ice. You don't I think a lot of times the things that happen to us are things that make us miss things that could have hurt us. Right. So you don't you don't give meaning to things that don't happen. Right. I mean, it's that's counterintuitive. It makes no sense. So, okay, so I think that's how that's how my writing and everything all bridges together is that I tell I retell stories and I say, You know what I said to the woman, here's what I learned from having lost my own child. I said to her, how do you know that you didn't do that soul a great service? How do you know that that soul simply need didn't need three weeks of embodied time? To do what he or she needed to do? And you provided that as a gift to God and to that soul? And she, she just, she had been so self punishing, and that's what we do. And then as you tell that story, you dig a deeper neural pathway in your brain, and it gets worse at you rehearse the difficulty, right? We do it all of us. We do it all the time, and we don't rehearse the and then I got a standing ovation piece. We rehearsed the time the jokes fell flat. Why is that I said because of the society and that it's all about suffering and all about, you know, for me, no, I think it's because there's a higher emotional intensity to the bad things than the good things. Well, I know too, that people relate to each other on that, like, oh, you wouldn't believe what happened to me today. versus my God. I just made $1,000 Today, can you believe it? Like you're saying no one talks about that, like, the good thing is it's all about, Well, geez, my life really sucks and blah, blah, blah versus look at the blessings even in the last two years, right with COVID I mean, there's so many blessings that have happened and there's so many people that you know, lost their lives and had loved ones go and etc, etc. some awful things, but you know, what, what are you going to bring forth in your life and how are you going to really share that information because it can either be that, you know, oh my god, it's awful, or, yeah, there's some really good, there's some good nuggets out there in the midst of the caca so to speak, you know, that but, you know, there's a really easy way to shift that for yourself really simple. People ask each other all the time. What's wrong? Right, what's oh, what's wrong? You sigh whatever. What's wrong? Stop asking what's wrong? Give that up. It's a waste change. Just change one word. What's Right. Right. Tell me what's right. First of all, you will shock the living daylights out of people because they will actually hear you. Right, right. Wait, what? Ah, well, I was breathing when I woke up this morning. Boy, yeah, that's a good thing. Well, do you would you prefer the alternative? No, right. There was hot water when I took a shower. Right? What's right. And when you are feeling that everything is wrong. That's when you get up and you go look in the loo mirror the bathroom mirror and you ask what's right. Okay, sugar. Did the mascara go on? Well, this morning, good. Be happy about that. No clumps. Right. Baby steps if it has started with mascara, baby steps. Well, exactly. Exactly. And it's one of the reasons I was drawn to your podcast at all is enthusiastically spiritual. Oh, hello. The word enthusiasm is an absolutely amazing word. It actually means in right in SEO, so that Word is God. When you are enthusiastic about something you are finding the God in that thing. Oh, I love it. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes, Susan. Well, okay, that's what we're I believe that that's what we're here to do. Yeah, all of us. You don't have to call it that. You can call it whatever you want. Call it Hepzibah. I'm good with that. And I don't think it cares either. No, I really don't. That's that's why when I counseled people, I talk to people about their God. Right. If you are a born again, Christian, I'm talking to you about Jesus and I got no trouble with that. But if you actually are a Hindu, and your preferred face of God is Lakshmi or Santoshi Ma Hey, I'm good with those girls. That's not a problem. Right. You know, it's an avatar. Your avatar? Yeah. I don't honest to God, I don't think God no offense to anyone cares what your software is. I think that that caring comes when we are hardwired for connection to divinity, and we walk away from it because we let our brains overrule our minds. Our brains overrule our minds. That's right. So like this. Here's a silly example. You're at work on Monday and your throat has a little tickle in it and you go Huh, I should probably go home and take a hot bath and drink a hot toddy and read my book and go to sleep right? But instead you say to your friends at work, oh sure. I'll go out and you're out till two o'clock in the morning and then you have to take Thursday off because you have a cold. Hello, Monday. You got a little tickle. You got a little warning there. Right? Are you listening to yourself? Are you caring for yourself? Are you paying attention to yourself? I truly, truly believe that self care is finding that tickle. Right? It's and that's why I finally decided that it was time for some public teaching. Not so much private teaching anymore. Although I do take private clients occasionally, but more like oh you have to find out that you have an energy system. And and the reason it's so important to know that you have an energy system is this. You know when a doctor goes to medical school, she studies 11 systems. We've know if you know anything about numerology, although 11 is an angel number yes, but it's not a good material number which is the source of numerology which is Hebrew numerology, right 12 Is the number of systems there should be like 12 signs of the zodiac 12 tribes of Israel Hello 12 is significant, right. Ah, okay, so what makes the circulatory system circulate? Yes, yes, yes. I know that a heart it's a it's a pump, right. But the lymph system doesn't have a pump. Right? What makes your lungs respire? I would call that lifeforce. You can call it chi prana mana. Call it Harold. You know Harold be thy name, whatever works for you. Right, right. I but I believe that that lifeforce if we look at it through a prism, we see the chakras and the chakras are how we get energy about our information about our own energy systems. And the reason nobody talks about it the reason nobody teaches it is you don't need a teacher and you don't need a mat and you don't need a class and you don't, you don't need a book. You don't need anything except you, your own body and to pay attention. So there's a cost. It's not a mistake that that phrases pay attention, right because if you're watching the Dallas Cowboys, you're not paying attention to your chakra system. You're just not right. So okay, what why would you do that? Well, because it's an early warning system. Most people think that chakras are these sort of flat hockey pucks that attached to the spine, and they're not, not at all. Chakras are three dimensional spheres of energy that sort of hang on an invisible string through the center of your body right in front of your spine. And the most important thing about them as far as I'm concerned, is that they talk to each other. Right. You know, people talk about you well, your chakras are blocked. If your chakras were totally blocked, you wouldn't be alive. So yet, not exactly. Unless you're on an undertakers table and then we can have another conversation. Right, but, but your chakras are, I believe, your mind, the physical version of your mind, you know, we don't know where we keep our minds. We know where our brains live. Right? But we constantly have been taught to override our minds with our brains, but that mind, that mind knows everything there. is to know about you your chakras, remember everything, every experience every past life, but my chakras are full of information. If you'll pay attention, and the easiest way as far as I'm concerned is to recite the colors of the rainbow chakras or colors colored the bottom chakra the Root Chakra is sort of cherry red, right? And I work with eight shockers instead of seven. The classical Hindu chakras are seven they go through the crown right? I work with an eighth chakra because in the 1890s in Spain, the Kabbalistic rabbis discovered a chakra coming forward in front of the thymus gland. It was a rosy pink. And it was all about compassion and emotional and psychological and spiritual immunity. Which is how you protect yourself from hurt feelings. Interesting, right? So here's an example right? You just broke up with your boyfriend, girlfriend, whoever right? Our your heart aches, your personal heart aches. It's emerald green. is right by where your physical heart is out. What do you do? Well, you scoop up all that hurt like it's just so many dust bunnies, from under the bed and you put it in your eighth chakra where you're immune from personal pain. Interestingly, the thymus gland is much ly in charge of our immune systems. And we know that because people know about T cells from all the information in the world about HIV AIDS. There is a blessing. We now people know they have a thymus gland right it's right here under your sternum in the center. I love the idea of of energetic immunity. But we all you know, you know somebody I'm sure who you meet and you think, oh, this person makes me feel icky. I don't know why. It doesn't really matter. But, you know, I was silly when I had a girlfriend who took me out for dinner one night with her ex girlfriend. Then she at dinner said how's your dinner? Sweetie? And we both looked up and said, swell, right? At the same time. It was awful. The EX girlfriend's name was Maureen. I was 20 when this happened, okay, I'll be 65 in three weeks. I still don't like anybody I meet named Maureen. Now, it's not the silliest thing you've ever heard. Come on. I have met nice Marines in the last 45 years. I promise you, right. But I have an energetic reaction to that because of a memory. Right. I know that. In fact, I have to bend over backwards to be nice to Marines, because otherwise I will be snarky with marine for no reason. Right. Now. That's a silly example. We have much more hurtful one. Right. So how do you learn how to manage your own energy system while you pay attention? It takes stillness. It takes quiet but here's the coolest, coolest thing in the whole wide world about your body. And that's this. Your body doesn't lie. And the reason your body doesn't lie which is even cooler, is that it can't. Your body cannot lie to you. Now your brain can lie to you. Oh, my throat doesn't hurt. I can go out till two o'clock in the morning and not get enough sleep and go to work tomorrow at seven no problem. Right? Because what you really wanted to do was go out and you don't really care that your throat is sore. But, but all those things are messages that you can learn to pay attention to. And you can learn to manage. You can I mean? One thing people ask me about all the time to research is energy leaks. What do I do about energy leaks. So while we all have them, I'll tell you or most of them come from our own mouths. Tongs lips Teads we say things that we don't mean we should go to lunch. Oh yeah, we should that mean that? No. But that opens an energy leak that opens a piece of unfinished business in the universe. Better to say even if you have to say socially, oh, sure. We should then go back and find that mirror and say in the bathroom mirror. No, I don't want to go to lunch with her. Right finish that but we leave things unfinished. And then we wonder why by the end of the day, we have no energy. And these things are very subtle, but they're big. Well, how many moms do you know who are toast? I was one Yeah. cross-eyed Toast we call it baby brain or doing too much emotional labor or not enough time to ourselves for self care. You know, self care isn't expensive journals and fancy bath salts, although those things make self care really swell. They do. It's true. But just those without the core of what self care is, which at the risk of sounding so obvious that it's an embarrassment, but it's sometimes we skip this part right? It is caring for the self. Right? Right. Well, sure if you're tired, fancy bath salts and a hot bath are going to feel good to your body. Yes. But what does it also do? Well, it puts you in a bathroom. Usually we're alone in bathrooms right with doors closed away from everybody else's input. it quiets your mind. It stills things. It allows you to think through the details. of things that you might eat that you that most moms don't have time to think through because they're thinking through everything all the time. Right, right. So self care usually requires quiet. That's what one of the many ways we can learn to care for ourselves. Why it doesn't cost money. It just means you stop. Right? We don't do that. We don't do that. And then we wonder why we're so tired all the time. Well, when you're going from thing to thing to thing to thing to thing to thing to thing. Whoa, you never get to finish any thing. Which is why you have energy leaks. Right? I tend to invite people to think about the thing that is bugging them the most. Right now, and then turn your attention inward to your body fast like that. Where do you feel in your body? So like you're thinking, Oh, I have this committee meeting and I don't want to go right or I don't like the chair. Right. And you have a sinking feeling in your third chakra, which is your solar plexus Plexus. It's sort of a yoke yellow What do you do? What do you do? How do you fix it? Well, if you were in an emergency room and someone came in with a gunshot wound, you wouldn't poke it would you? Probably not. What you do instead is you've looked at the tissue around it. So here you have this thinking stomach. Alright, look at your second chakra. Right which is orange, pumpkin orange. It's where you keep your passion. You feel like this person that you have to encounter this meeting upsets your passions in some way bothers you in some way. Or check your fourth chakra your heart chakra emerald green, above the yellow. Well, maybe that yellow needs a little support from the orange. So move the colors up a little bit and go to orange yellow. Right? Because the important thing is that they're talking to each other. And then go to green, yellow and make a cushion around that and then pay attention in the meeting. Is it maybe that you feel disempowered? Because usually your third shot when your third chakra goes off, you feel disempowered? Doing some visualization is one way you work with it. Partly more you can actually imagine it as swathes of color that you walk through like light. You just walk right through light. I and there are people who hear color. There are people who feel color, even do it all the time really and we treat ourselves in our clothes. Right? What are you wearing today? Well, I had pink on today. I wanted to wear pink because it's dreary and gross and icky here in the Hudson River Valley at the moment. Thunder kept us awake most of the night. Okay, a little cheer, right? Pink. cheered me right up people do it all the time. We actually treat ourselves with our clothes. So today I chose purple. And I chose purple so I can connect with spirit and have a deeper connection and flow with it. So that's why I chose purple. So it's interesting. You should bring up the colors Exactly. They are colors or frequency. Right? It's like this. If I went to a piano and I played a middle C and said you Theresa, this is music. Eventually you would say back to me. No, it's not. It's a one note. Right? It's not important that you have a third chakra. What's important is is your third chakra dancing with your second and fourth chakra. Is everybody talking because it's all that energy together that makes you you and energy talents right? When someone is led in any given situation we all are by a particular chakra. You know that that chakra is putting out more energy it needs support from other places, right? You see it in music all the time. So if a melody is going absolutely crazy, the harmonies slow down and deepen right so that you can pay attention to the melody so when the when the piccolo goes off that aesthetic that did that, did that did that right? Then then then the tuba is boom paying a little more slowly right right so that you're right. Well, that's what you want to be able to do with your own chakra system. You are the conductor. That's why I call it energy hygiene. And honestly, I think we should be teaching this to second graders. Like we teach them how to brush their teeth. Right? You have an energy system, and it can keep you healthy, wealthy, wise, happy, feeling good about yourself grateful. It can be magical, if you'll pay attention. So because I've done this work with people for so many years, people ask me this all the time if I learned about my chakras, can I work on other people? Yes, no. How's that for a really clear Libra answer? Yes. You can. But you have to know your own system before you can work in someone else's system. Otherwise, you'll project your stuff on that person, and you'll think it's theirs. Right. So, so you have to learn on your own, which is why I wrote the workbooks that I did. There are eight I wrote eight workbooks called energy integrity, one for each chakra. The first one is energy integrity, red root chakra, and it's to walk you through past present and future, how that chakra is functioning in your life. How you learned to let it function, how your how it's working now, and a dream about how you want it to function. Like oh, so first chakra is about survival and tribal issues and food, clothing, shelter, clean water, air, that kind of stuff. Interestingly, a lot of people who are environmental activists burned out their first chakras because they were afraid about the Earth. Wow. Right? What do you do? If you're an environmental activist? Take my word for it. Wear red. Wear as much red as you can. I'm a redhead. I would wear red, right? Break the fashion rules it does didn't matter when you're exhausted as an environmental activist wear red. It will help you immediately to not be so burned out. Right? Well, of course, because it's activating your own personal fear. Right. Ah, you're in a brand new relationship. You You're falling in love. Your second chakra is going gangbusters. It's bright orange, and everything is beautiful in your world. You know how it is when you first fell in love with somebody? It's magic? Well, yeah, and I don't necessarily say wear orange but be aware of what you're projecting onto other people. mitigate that a little put a little red in front of your second chakra. They don't need to know how totally happy you are in the sack with someone else. When you're just falling in love that I mean, it's clear what's happening. Right. So you will eventually you will learn to work with your own chakras because you'll know them and that's what the point is. That's why they're only physical workbooks. They are actual workbooks that you fill in analog with a pen. All right. You got me so excited on that. I love that. I love putting the pencils. Well, I and there are opportunities to draw there are I mean, it's it's it's really important to Oh own what's going on in your own system, but we don't what we're taught to do is project our energy all over everybody else, and then wonder why we're exhausted. Wait a minute, which is why I always say if you want to protect yourself, energetically don't use white light. White Light is for emergencies. White Light is for 911 Okay, so you haven't needed it since then. Unless a bus was about to roll over you. Right? And so what here's what you do you imagine a barber pole can picture barber pole red, white and blue. Right? Okay. Change it to a rainbow. Red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet rose right? And make it big enough and get in. What happens then? And I've taught this to a million would you believe physicians because by the end of the day, a physician seeing patients in 15 minute increments. That person is so tired energetically that he or she can barely move. Right I mean you think about that eight hours of four patients an hour. Wow. And the need to take notes on all those people, put them in the computer, get them in and out of the office. I mean, if there's a lot to manage. So you wrap yourself in a rainbow so that when other people approach you they take from the energy outside your aura that you've protected your self with, not from you. Right? We're sitting across from one another metaphorically speaking although Teresa's in one place and I'm in another but we're connected. Our chakras are connected. This is why we feel like we understand one another right? Right. Well, if I turn my body away from Teresa, we won't be as connected. Great way to deal with a hostile audience member right like us. You could learn to use your chakra system to deal with just about anything. I've had people do chakra work that suddenly made 15 years of therapy makes sense to them in 15 minutes. Wow. Where they just haven't understood they are they're trying to do mentally. What is four fold? You know, where body heart, mind, spirit. Were all four of those things. And I say we're four because there are four seasons. Right there. There are fours everywhere in the world. And four interestingly in numerology is the number of balanced power. Right? Well, you need all those aspects of yourself. Right? All of us do. How do we manage our energy to support all of that? So if you're really emotionally vulnerable, someday? Oh, my goodness. Yes. Protect yourself. Don't don't go to work with your heart on your sleeve sleeve because you spent the whole weekend you know, biting your tongue and not saying to your mother in law what you wanted. If we do that, we do that all the time and then wonder why we feel a little uncomfortable on Monday at work. You know, I used to actually do that. My mother would always make me so angry that I would get laryngitis by the time I left her house. It was hilarious. And it made my husband laugh like a loon. Because it was I mean, it was so predictable. It was so predictable. She made me so angry. And I would go to work on Monday and I would say okay, I spent the weekend with my mother in law everyone be nice. until lunch. Then you can talk to me. Okay, right forewarned. And that's partly what knowing your own energy system does. You can be aware of your own vulnerability so that you don't get so ambushed in life. Right we get ambushed all the time energetically. Yeah. Especially with you know how life is these days and things are moving faster and there's more people on the planet and there's people leaving the planet and there's so much going on collectively. energetically. Yeah, it's it's an s show. Pretty much all the time. So you have got to do this hygiene you've got to do energy hygiene for yourself. So I thank you so much Susan for sharing all of that because that's a huge piece because I myself as a energetic being, which we all are. I'm super sensitive. So I know the people you know if you're in a physical body, so are you but how much are you aware of it? So what you brought up today has been such a divine explanation of how to work with our chakras, how to work with our energy and your beautiful books I want would like you to now to share with the listeners a little bit about how they can get in touch with you, how you provide services or what your books and I'd love for you to share some of that please. Okay, may I actually offer everybody a free gift? Let's start with that. That's more fun. Okay, let's get right so the free the free gift is this. First of all, let me tell you, it really is free. You don't have to put your email address in to have it. Okay. So if you will go to and I will ask Teresa to put this in her show notes, chakras dot Susan corso.com You will get what I call a digital download of the Les Moore's and the less mores are a way to start working with your chakra system. Right now. This second so I'll give you an example the less more of the first chakra is complain less. Think more. Nice. Okay. So you know, if you're complaining a lot, I don't have to tell you that right? If you've been complaining a lot, or if all of a sudden, people around you are complaining because everything's a mirror right? So if you're complaining on the inside but not saying it out loud, then everybody around you is going to be complaining too. Right? Okay. So how do I stop that? Well? I start to tell people thank you. Right. Those less Moore's are on this digital download. Actually there are two of them because I couldn't decide between the Libras They're beautiful. You can have them both. Now then another screen will come up and invite you to belong to a mailing list. It will tell you about my chakra work, but that's one thing. Then all my books are available. At Amazon and ONLY at Amazon at the moment. They are Print On Demand Books. In the description of the books, it says which one you should start with. So if you want more passion in your life, start with the second chakra if you want more power, start with the third and it will it gives you the equation right so you can pick doesn't matter where you start. You have all all of them and they all give you access to all of them. In terms of working with me. You can go to one of two websites either Susan corso.com Or I ampersand dot o RG which is I A M p e r s a n d dot o RG the notion being that if you will ampersand or live your life based on ampersand it will mean that you are inclusive of everyone. And until whether we like this or not. And now here's the truth of metaphysics until we include everybody, including the people who we don't agree with including the people we don't vote like, including the people whose language we don't speak, including the people we don't like. Plain and simple, including everybody. No exceptions. No exceptions, then we're gonna suffer. And when we start to be inclusive of everyone, and that doesn't mean you have to have dinner with them all. It means you have to think ah, these are humans like me. These are humans like me. Somebody was delighted when they were born. Hopefully, someone raised these people, someone fed them clothed them, shot them, got them to school, like them don't like them. It doesn't matter. Right? Right. It doesn't matter because we are all spiritual beings doing the very, very best that we can and with no manuals is That's right. It was virtually no manuals. I mean, some people have manuals later, but yes, but and it's absolutely true with no manuals, and there's a reason we have no manual and partly it's because everybody writes their own. Right. Right. Your your experience. I mean, it's one of the reasons I think I've stayed fascinated with the human energy system, Teresa, is that you know, if I was in the Waldorf Astoria Grand Ballroom in New York City, and there were 200 people in the room, all of whom wanted to lose five pounds. They would all want to lose five pounds for 200 different reasons. They would be wired into their energy systems differently. Every single person would be different we are and as a result it's a constant discovery. Which is why when I say well, I lost my five pounds doing X so everyone else should be able to do that too. It doesn't work because everyone else is not me. Which is why everybody's worth including and learning about because my goodness sake. Humans are fascinating. If you'll if you'll hold still and listen. I think I agree with you. And those your I ampersand and Susan corso.com. All of that will be in the show notes. I'll make sure to get in there that freebie for the listeners. And I just want to thank you so much, Susan for coming on today and sharing it has been a delight. I hope my listeners enjoy learning more about the chakras about energy hygiene, and how to get connected with Susan. Thank you so very much Teresa. It was a pleasure to talk to you.